Hi Lift Jack take it or leave it ???

Submitted: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 18:27
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Cape York in 10 long dreamy nights time.Car & trailer are getting full, that's not their tanks either,lounge room floor is hard to find & kitchen sink is missing.What about JACK, will I really need it or not??His heavy & takes up a lot of space.Also my wife only knows how to use the small one. Cheers Crocket.
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Reply By: Willem - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 18:38

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 18:38
Crocket

I wouldn't be without mine. Hardly use it, I know, BUT a little while ago I had a mishap with the jockey wheel when the trailer was standing free. It would have been a lot of stuffing around to get the drawbar back up to the right height without the Hi Lift !!

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Hairy - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 21:05

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 21:05
Yep!!
I ve probably used mine half a dozen times in the last 10 years but what it was used for would have been a nightmare without it.
Take it!
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - BUNDY BOY (WA) - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 22:25

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 22:25
hay there Crocket.......totally agree with all there sometimes a pain to carry ...mine lives on da roof rack...only had it down once ....but better to have it there for the once than be stuck..without it....
Cheers Bundy
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Reply By: Johnny boy - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 18:39

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 18:39
You will regret taking it if you don't use it .......

You will regret not taking it if you do need to use it ........

AHH THE DELEMA!!!!!!

P.S I'm just jealous I'm not going in 10 dreamy nights LOL
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Reply By: obee - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 18:57

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 18:57
I would only worry if you going where you wont see another vehicle for a couple of days. Come to think of it, let me know where that rare place is! I have been looking a long time now. LOL

Owen
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Reply By: PatNav - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 18:57

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 18:57
Hi crocket mate take it ,leave the misses out oops um haha Na really take it as it does more than one thing and can save you alot of time if you get in strif ,and on that note you dont want to up set the wife,with extensive delays cause u left it at home
Cheers mate
patnav
PS have a good trip
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Reply By: Steve from Top End Explorer Tours - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 19:08

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 19:08
As Len Beadell would say, take out the might come in handy, to put in want will be used.

Or words to that effect.

I never leave home with out it.

Cheers Steve.
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Follow Up By: Rip64 - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 19:23

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 19:23
If you can fit it - fit it.
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 19:32

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 19:32
I've never even come close to using mine during 2 trips to the Cape and Simpson Desert etc. I've now sold it.

In any case, does your vehicle actually have the right available anchor points for you to use the high lift? Many of the vehicles I see with a nice new, shiny, unused HLJack have nowhere on their front bumper/bullbar or rear plastic bar that they could actually attach/place the tongue of the jack anyway. Of course you may have an attachment that enables you to hook it onto the wheel or hub etc......but for the most part they are a heavy bit of kit that won't get used.

Of course, if you were planning a really remote trip where you HAD to be self-sufficient, then that's a different story.
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Follow Up By: Hairy - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 21:11

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 21:11
Good point about lifting points but if you carry a short sling you can make it work if you have to.
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Reply By: Axel [ the real one ] - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 19:38

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 19:38
You only think you have a decision to make , We are going thru the same except "do we take the boat with us on the trip ,or use the money saved in fuel costs on some professional charters " tis a dilemma ,lol.
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 20:26

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 20:26
crocket
There is 2 items of 4x4 gear that I dont own and don't want to , Both are bloody dangerous, They are the Snatch Strap and the HiLift Jack , I would be getting an Exhaust air Jack , I seen a bloke in Mt Isa using a Hi Lift, his hand slipped of the handle and it went bloody beserk with handle just missing his chin ,With the Exhaust jack They are lighter, more stable, and less likely to sink into sand or mud,
I did have one once and went and sold it, but when I went to buy it the salesman/boy said a hi Lift would be better, what if the Motor don't start , you won't be able to use the Ex' Jack , I said to him well if the Motor won't start I won't I won't need to Jack it , he was speechless.

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Follow Up By: Member - Jiarna (NT) - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 20:34

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 20:34
You are right Doug. Both items can be dangerous, especially if not used appropriately. But so can a 4WD be dangerous if driven by someone with their brain in neutral - that's no reason not to have one.

In my case, I don't have a Hi-Lift jack because I don't need one, or an exhaust jack for the same reason. But I do have a snatch strap, and use it correctly (read 'safely') when it is needed, which is not often.

I had a chuckle about the salesman's reaction. Good one!

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Follow Up By: PatNav - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 21:14

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 21:14
Can u put the exhaust jack under the rear tow bar lift the 4be an push it off into a new position like u can do with high jack,or attach the exhaust jack to a tree get the tow strap hook it to jack and pull the 4be with it like u can do with hijack ??
just askin
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Follow Up By: Hairy - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 21:15

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 21:15
Jeeze!!
Cant advice be different?
If there are two things I never go without they are a High lift and a snatch strap!!!
Everyone to their own I suppose.
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 21:25

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 21:25
PatNav
Geez you lot are determined eh but very funnt too,
OK so I have lifted the rear of my Troopy with the air Jack, [ yes it would do that] So why would want to shove it sideways , just fill the bloody holes in , but IF you did need to move it over a bit just push it as it deflates,
And why would I need to use it as a winch when theres an XD9000 in the bullbar,
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Hairy Harry
A snatch strap's not much good when you travel alone as I do when I go off road, also when your alone you tend to think more and not put yourself in situations
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Follow Up By: Hairy - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 21:35

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 21:35
Gday Doug,
I cant remember if the bloke who wrote the post stated weather he was traveling on his own or not but.......Ive come accross people before bogged to the arrse where you dont want to drive out close enough to get your strap on , but he also carried one? Made it a shiit load easier. Besides what if some turns up who could help but wasnt carrying a strap because he two was on his own?
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Reply By: Crackles - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 21:07

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 21:07
If you are just taking the main route to the top (OTL) & all the usual tourist sites then I wouldn't bother with a high lift Jack. If you like to get into remote places by yourself then yes. Depends also if you rely on the jack as a back up winch or bead breaker. If you have other options then there's no point doubling up with gear that will do the same job particually when it weighs so much. The 4 wheel driving on the Cape really isn't as difficult as some would have you believe.
Cheers Craig...........
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 21:22

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 21:22
probably you wont need it as plenty of people go that way. however i dont go to the milk bar now without my Hi lift as had i been another 20k out i might have paid a vey dear price for not taking it on one occasion and was saved big time by it on another. i would take one over a winch anyday
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Reply By: Richard Kovac - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 21:26

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 21:26
Leave it

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Reply By: Robin Miller - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 21:46

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 21:46
Leave it , if you have other ways to jack the car Crocket.

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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 21:46

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 21:46
I have only used my High Lift twice.

Once in the Vic High Country, without it I'd still be there, and once on Cape York. On the Cape I used it to level up the Trak Shak one night. I had stopped and decided where I wanted to put the camper. I did not want to unhook it because I was affter an early start in the morning but it was not quite level. Out with the High Lift and hey presto one level camper. My mate laughed at me but I slept well.

If it is easy for you to carry then chuck it in if not leave it. The worst that can happen is that you will have to spend a lot of time getting to know your original equipment jack really well.

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Reply By: disco driver - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 23:58

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 23:58
Never used my hi lift as a jack or winch in 10 years but the handle came in handy to euthenase a roo I hit up near Minilya a couple of years back.

My advice, such as it is:-

If you have space and are not put off by the weight, take it.

Disco
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Reply By: Steve63 - Wednesday, May 23, 2007 at 11:15

Wednesday, May 23, 2007 at 11:15
Never used mine as a jack but it has come in handy as a bead breaker and a hand winch.

Steve
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Reply By: GoneTroppo Member (FNQ) - Wednesday, May 23, 2007 at 11:33

Wednesday, May 23, 2007 at 11:33
Leave it.

Unless you have an adaptor to put it on the wheel hub it's next to useless in many situatons.
You don't say what vehicle you're driving, but coil sprung vehicles with long susp travel and a Hilift on the bullbar/rear step etc just don't work well.

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Reply By: Steve from Top End Explorer Tours - Wednesday, May 23, 2007 at 11:44

Wednesday, May 23, 2007 at 11:44
Reasons to take a High Lift.

1 : Its a useful Jack

2 : It can be used to lift a bogged car to put something under the wheel, when you can't use a bottle jack.

3 : It can be used as a bead breaker.

4 : It can be used as a hand winch.

5 : It can be used to lift the trailer to change an axle, or replace a short stub axle you are taking one aren't you.

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6 : euthenase a roo LOL

Reasons for not taking one.

Can't think of any

Cheers Steve.

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