Could this winch idea work?
Submitted: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 at 20:52
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Russel & Mary
I've thought about this for a couple of years now. Could a cheap alternative winch be made using a cable around a bolt on "cotton reel" style hub attached to the front hub through a pulley sheave block and back to the other side front hub?. If one wheel only should spin (as it usually does) this won't affect anything as the cable is still going through the sheave block, so that the tension is equal on both sides. What do you guys think. Rus.
Reply By: The Explorer - Wednesday, May 23, 2007 at 21:10
Wednesday, May 23, 2007 at 21:10
Hello - already been invented.
from
Site Link
Hub
Winches
There is an original Land Rover device called a Hub Winch. This device consists of a pair of deep steel dishes that are bolted onto the rear
wheels of a vehicle. One attaches one end of a fabric strap or non-stretch rope around each drum and the other ends to a length of stout rope. Fit a pulley to the rope and attach the pulley to an anchor point. The pulley is important as it equalizes the strain between sides such that if one wheel spins it will take up the slack so that the strap does not fall off the opposite side.
Take note to wrap the strap in the opposite direction of rotation of the wheel. Gently drive the vehicle out of the situation, taking care not to drive on the strap when grip is re-gained. There is no need for excessive power, drive in 1st or reverse in low range with center diff locked where applicable. The reason for fitting hub
winches to the rear
wheels only is that the steering mechanism will get bent as the front axle cannot cope with such loads.
The original hub
winches are fairly scarce and can only be used on steel rims.
There is, however an equivalent available, called Hubbytrax, these are available at 4x4 stores and chain stores. The straps used should have a 6 ton rating and each need only be 8 meters long and the rest of the distance can be taken up with a rope, via the pulley.
Cheers
Greg
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Follow Up By: Russel & Mary - Wednesday, May 23, 2007 at 21:16
Wednesday, May 23, 2007 at 21:16
Well, there you go. One factor I hadn't considered is the strain on steering linkages when pulling on the front. Thanks, Rus.
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Reply By: slush - Wednesday, May 23, 2007 at 21:12
Wednesday, May 23, 2007 at 21:12
the army tried this some time ago with some success, but found you need to have some type of guide in the front say off the bull bar.
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Wednesday, May 23, 2007 at 21:55
Wednesday, May 23, 2007 at 21:55
K & N have them on the floor for sale here in WA
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Reply By: Member - Kiwi B - Wednesday, May 23, 2007 at 22:49
Wednesday, May 23, 2007 at 22:49
I used to use a set-up like this in the '70s. We owned a SWB Landrover with free wheeling hubs which were about 4" diameter, parallel and smooth. Managed to acquire about 40 yards of 1/2" soft wire rope. Put a couple of wraps on the hub of the wheel that was spinning and a very good anchor point, (extracted some little trees one night) and it was unstoppable.
Excellent system.
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi B - Wednesday, May 23, 2007 at 22:52
Wednesday, May 23, 2007 at 22:52
Meant to say, it worked like a capstan winch. Down side was it needed somebody who new what they were doing on the end of the rope.
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Reply By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Thursday, May 24, 2007 at 06:50
Thursday, May 24, 2007 at 06:50
There is an "Updated" version available.........
check out The Bush Winch Home Page
I saw it in action at the Caravan,
Camping, 4WD show here on the
Gold Coast this year. Not bad in effect, but exxy when you can get an electric for similar $$
Cheers
Brian
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Follow Up By: Russel & Mary - Thursday, May 24, 2007 at 07:39
Thursday, May 24, 2007 at 07:39
thanks everyone. I might try making one after seeding and tractor work is finished. Rus.
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