HF Radio & The Internet

Submitted: Saturday, May 26, 2007 at 11:39

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Member - lyndon K (SA)

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Have a new Codan NGT on order, i have read on this site that you can use it for email,is this correct and if so how does it work?. As email = internet does this mean i can check my investments from the bush as well & if so just how slow are the speeds and what are the costs involved?.
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Saturday, May 26, 2007 at 12:12

Saturday, May 26, 2007 at 12:12

Lyndon & Bernadette
Looks to be a nice purchase, good onya, mate I don't reackon you will be on EO with it ...lol but it does have Text messaging, as for emails, it's not listed in the specs for the Venture Pack but is in the AR

The NGT AR is a comprehensive solution to your communication needs.

While incorporating all the usual features of Codan’s leading-edge High Frequency (HF) radio technology, this transceiver also features a user-friendly handset, advanced calling features and Easitalk as standard. Extensive Automated Link Establishment (ALE) capabilities (where permitted), GPS, fax, data and email
transmission are optional.
www.transceiverservices.com/html/ngt.htm

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Reply By: Mike Harding - Saturday, May 26, 2007 at 13:03

Saturday, May 26, 2007 at 13:03

Yes you can but you'll need a HF modem and speed will be about 6kb max so forget surfing the net or downloading attachments. Satellite might be a better option.

www.reidsradiodata.com.au/hfemail.htm

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Follow Up By: Member - lyndon K (SA) - Saturday, May 26, 2007 at 13:25

Saturday, May 26, 2007 at 13:25

Thanks Mike, you are a kill joy!! :))
Out of interest how many kb would it take to open one web page?
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Saturday, May 26, 2007 at 13:51

Saturday, May 26, 2007 at 13:51

>Thanks Mike, you are a kill joy!! :))

Everyone should have a hobby :)

Very roughly: I think the front page of the Explore Ox forum sends about 70kb of data and the other end would need to send some handshaking data too so it would take somewhere around 90 seconds to load.

If you go for an Amateur Radio Licence (pretty easy to get these days) you could use a Pactor 3 modem for net access which would give you up to 19.2kb and would make limited net use bearable, maybe? In reality anything more than text e-mail over HF is probably not workable - the laws of physics win again :)

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Follow Up By: Member - lyndon K (SA) - Saturday, May 26, 2007 at 14:08

Saturday, May 26, 2007 at 14:08

Thanks Mike
I might look into the Pactor 3 thing,any idea of the costs involved with this?. What's involved in the Amateur Licence,is it a matter of just paying a fee or do have the give the grey matter a work out and sit a test or something?
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Saturday, May 26, 2007 at 14:37

Saturday, May 26, 2007 at 14:37

Last time I checked Pactor 3 modems were about A$1800! :(

The Amateur Licence requires a test - 3 levels - this is the basic licence:

www.wia.org.au/foundation/foundation%20licence%20information-v1.pdf

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Follow Up By: Member - lyndon K (SA) - Saturday, May 26, 2007 at 14:55

Saturday, May 26, 2007 at 14:55

Thanks Mike but What the -----!!!!
$1800 crickey!!! Think i will give it a miss, would just get a Sat phone if i was that keen! Pitty,as i think the 19kb may have been ok.
Have you heard much about next G?. Will be replacing the CDMA with a new phone shortly + will be getting mobile wireless through Telstra.
Have been really happy with the CDMA coverage.
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Reply By: Member - Ian S (NT) - Saturday, May 26, 2007 at 14:48

Saturday, May 26, 2007 at 14:48

Hi Lyndon,

I have a Nera R-BGAN for testing in the Simpson and Western Deserts that has just arrived in the last 3 weeks. It is a notebook size 2 way Internet connection that gives speeds up to about 150k when connected to my notebook. Yes, you can surf the web and send emails.

I had problems with the authentication setup initially but I'm very impressed. Hardware costs about $600. It is only used in a static situation but I have had a connection sitting on a dune on the Madigan Line. Drawback at this stage (but not for me) is that the satellite covers from Mt Isa west but if you are from SA sholdn't bother you initially.

Hope this helps.
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Ian@Mt Dare

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Follow Up By: Member - lyndon K (SA) - Saturday, May 26, 2007 at 15:12

Saturday, May 26, 2007 at 15:12

Hi Ian
Very interested, can you give me any links or more info. This sounds just what we are after!. What are connection costs and download limits?.
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Follow Up By: Member - Ian S (NT) - Saturday, May 26, 2007 at 15:45

Saturday, May 26, 2007 at 15:45

Hi Lyndon,

The satellite system is Inmarsat, traditionally expensive because it has had to toehold in the maritime industry. I can't tell you the cost as this is a trial system for a Brisbane supplier. If you want email him on farnie@globalsat.com.au or 07 3294 7787

I hope this helps.

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Follow Up By: Member - lyndon K (SA) - Saturday, May 26, 2007 at 15:48

Saturday, May 26, 2007 at 15:48

Thanks Ian

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Follow Up By: Member - lyndon K (SA) - Saturday, May 26, 2007 at 16:01

Saturday, May 26, 2007 at 16:01

West of "the Isa" takes in most of the remote places in Aust anyway!
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Reply By: LCRUZA (VIC) - Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 11:47

Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 11:47

Have a look at www.bcon.com.au/default.htm as they have a small message service that works with the NGT.

Have a Barrett 550 and just use the GPS logging system that allows family members with internet access to follow our trip.

Ron

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