Towing

Submitted: Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 07:33
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G'day all.
Hopefully in this large forum someone has come up with a solution to having both 4WD and caravan towed to the nearest town. We have read in several magazines where people have been left on the side of the road because the tow company couldn't or wouldn't pick up their car or van because of the size.
Peter and Dawn
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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 08:44

Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 08:44
Hi Peter,

I guess if the tow vehicle does not have the capacity to tow your rig then they have no choice. This may have been the case in days gone by when many tow trucks were just Holden 1 tonners. These days most of the tow vehicles, certainly in regional areas are tilt trays with a load capacity well above what is required to pick up Landcruisers or Patrols. They now also have the capacity to pick up one vehicle and tow another so they can probably get your car and van back to town.

Duncs
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter H (NT) - Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 18:16

Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 18:16
Hi Duncs,
Thanks for your reply and we will take your advice onboard. It's just that SWMBO wanted to make sure that if anything happened along the way that we could rely on a tow company.
Thanks again,
Peter & Dawn.
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Follow Up By: Dion - Monday, May 28, 2007 at 07:48

Monday, May 28, 2007 at 07:48
When my mate worked for the garage in Copley, their recovery trailer (like mine are) is fitted with a receiver hitch and lighting socket at the rear.
Therefore the disabled tow vehicle was placed on the trailer, whilst the CT was coupled to the rear of the recovery trailer and then away it went back to Copley. The tow vehicle was a petrol powered Patrol trayback.

Cheers,
Dion.
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Reply By: Peter 2 - Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 08:54

Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 08:54
I know of at least a few occasions where the tilt tray was unable to carry the car and van in remoter (sp) areas. The first was my parents with a 16ft Jayco poptop and Commodore, could carry the commodore but not tow the van as well so Dad stayed with the van on the side of the road until they could come back for him (300k round trip). The second was a couple we came across with a Landcruiser and big van like yours, again the loaded cruiser was borderline for the tilt tray and he couldn't tow the van as well at the same time.
The third time was on the Gibb river road when one of our group hydraulicked his Patrol on a creek crossing and the tilt tray couldn't carry both the loaded Patrol and tow his Jayco Dove back to Derby. I ended up towing the dove behind the troopy, with no brakes ;-))
Then there is the weight limit of some motoring organisations (typically 2.5t) most large 4wd's would exceed this even before the load was taken into account.
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter H (NT) - Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 18:23

Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 18:23
Hi Peter,
Thanks also for your advice as we appreciate as much follow-ups as we can get as we are new to caravanning.
As you can see by our question stories of this nature are in every caravan magazine and SWMBO starts to panic thinking it will happen to us.
Regards,
Peter & Dawn.
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Reply By: SA_Patrol - Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 10:06

Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 10:06
Other reasons can be te Tow Truck has only 24v at the Trailer plug, They might not have brake controller for trailer, they only get paid to tow one vehicle also their insurance only covers the goods on hook.
I have RAA Premium Plus which covers my car/caravan back to where ever if it breaks down
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Follow Up By: DIO - Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 12:27

Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 12:27
Make sure you read all the 'fine print' before assuming too much with RAA Premium...

Maximum weight 2 tonnes Metro or Country

400 km maximum - round trip country

50 km metro

The recovery of vehicles is limited to those that do not exceed the physical dimensions of 5.5 metres in length, 2.3 metres in width, 2 metres in height, 1.8 metre wheel span or weigh more than 2 tonnes gross weight. Where recovery of vehicles outside these limits is possible, members may be required to pay any additional charges (see Vehicle Movement Schedule conditions.) The recovery
of caravans, trailers or similar are not covered by RAA Premium

Non-serviced Areas
We pay up to $1750 Premium benefits (including towing up to 400km round trip)
for any one claim in a non-serviced area.

Qualifications for Benefits
Except for emergency road service, towing benefits and other promotional offers or
discounts, all Premium benefits are available only when all of the following conditions apply:

• The vehicle is disabled due to an electrical or mechanical failure for a period assessed by an RAA Premium consultant to be longer than 48 hours (except for when the vehicle is immobilised for less than 48 hours you may qualify for two nights emergency accommodation and two days rental car).
• The breakdown occurred more than 100km
from your home.
• The vehicle’s gross weight is less than
4 tonnes, other than recreational mobile
homes which will receive up to $220 per annum for towing, and any other related
Premium benefits that apply to the breakdown incident.

Non-serviced Area
In a non-serviced area the maximum benefit per claim is $1750 (includes country road service including towing up to 400km round trip) back to the nearest available
service depot. However, if your vehicle is recovered from a non-serviced to a serviced area we will increase your maximum benefit to $3,500 in the first year and $5,500 in your subsequent consecutive years of Premium membership.
If your vehicle breaks down in a non-serviced area you must telephone an RAA Premium consultant as soon as possible to explain the situation.

There are some 56 pages of rules, interpretations, exclusions, exemptions, exceptions, etc and can be viewed at Link
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter H (NT) - Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 18:29

Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 18:29
Hi there,
Thanks for your input, it has helped us out. We best do our homework before we set off and we must really look at the fine print before joining an automobile association.
Kind Regards,
Peter & Dawn.
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Reply By: Steve West - Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 21:17

Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 21:17
Hi peter,
Havnt been on site for quite a while and see that you have had a lot of good replys.
Have a think about this one. And I will try not to ramble to much.
I have my cruiser insured with RACV in Victoria, The caravan also with Racv,
Also travell with RACV Total Care, if car brakes down any where more than 100 ks from home, (so that not an issue when travelling Aus), RACV will tow car to nearest repairer. If they wont pay to take van with or come back to pick it up due to limitations of tow vichile, All you have to do is put the van in a safe position off the road and locked and secured, this can be witnessed by the tow truck driver, shuve all your personel expensive gear in the car right up to the roof. Let Racv know that the van has been secured and where, and that the tow truck driver witnessed it.
As you are with total care they have to pay for accomidation and hire car while your car is being repaired. Make shaw you also let them know that your van is sitting a couple of 100 k's from anywhere and that it is also insured with them, and that of the cost of the local motel/hotel compared to the local caravan park in your own van which Racv probably wont have to pay for is.
Are You getting my piont yet.
Also let Racv know your van insurance amount, eg $40,000.00 and if there happy to take the risk of leaving the van in nomans land and that you may get a new van out of it due to vandals etc etc then so be it. put me in a $200.00 a night hotel for upto i "I think Racv total care its two weeks but dont quote me on that" so be it.
This is of course based on your van not being your pride and joy.
If the car and van insured by different company the car people wont give to hoots about the van "not there problem" Van insurance dont usualy pay to have the van towed if the car brakes down accident etc etc so it becomes your problem.
Insurer both with same company with max coverage then it becomes their problem and their expense.

Best of luck
Steve West
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Reply By: Muzzgit [WA] - Monday, May 28, 2007 at 01:33

Monday, May 28, 2007 at 01:33
Firstly let me say, although it does pay to be a little bit prepared, panicking because you mightn't be able to get tow truck that will handle both the car and the van is probably worrying about nothing.

Your rig pic shows an apparently fairly new vehicle and an apparently fairly new van.... are you expecting trouble?

By the looks of your van, your probably not going to be doing much offroading, just imagine the nightmare of getting a tow out in the bush.

Don't worry about it. Get out there and do it!
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