STT's at a good price

Can't offer anything too constructive, other than to duck for cover - that's another can of worms opened up.............

I think there was a post just a few days ago re coopers, (not sure if STT's) which yeilded a heap of feedback - good & bad

Cheers
Mark

bang....bang.....bang.....(here come's the gunfire....)

Actually i cant be bothered....haha lol

Just one question....are they black and round and hold air?

they should be ok!

I am sure there is more than one opinion (and those diametrically opposed) on this subject on this forum.

I have Cooper STTs all around - 285/75R16s and they have done pretty fine in my books.

I have six on the 100 series and now 3 more on the trailer. They get a good workout on a variety of terrain - of necessity most of it on bitumen, to get to the dirt roads, sand, mud and rocks where they get tested. I am just back from the Tanami and Kimberley - probably 5,000 ks off-road and some pretty serious (we went to Walsh Point, Kalumburu, Bungle Bungle, GRR, to name a few serious roads as well as some pretty rough tracks and a bit of off-track to get into the places we wanted). They have also done the Old Telegraph Track on the Bight, some serious high country terrain, the Simpson Desert including gibber country and plenty of Flinders work.

Most of the serious situations are heavily loaded including with a trailer at times, which seems to knock the rear tyres around more than without.

With all of that, there is plenty of tread (probably 1/3 original) despite 60,000ks although I lost one whole tread block/lug or whatever you call it, on one of them which has probably written off the tyre on this last trip.

For me, they are the perfect balance in a radial tyre for the work I do.

They are great handling on bitumen, and not that much more noisy than the two sets of ATs I had before them - well until they start chopping up, when they get noisier.

Then again, a tire is a tyre is a tire ;-)

Cheers
Andrew.

Check thread 45670 for discussion on Coopers (tyres).

Wheres willems thread on these "BRILLIANT" tires lmao

Errmmmm..............
What do you call "a good price" ???

I got a set last week.

I can hardly hear them on bitumen, which is the only place I've had them on yet.

They can drive ok around, the temptation to start jumping kerbs yelling "ye ha" is one I have been able to overcome so far.

I have managed to ignore the 'pajero claptrap' re Coopers on here for a long time, however I have reached my breaking point.

As a lot of you know , amongst other things I own and drive a Troopy that has been converted into a Pop top Camper, which along with all the 'other things' done to it, weighs in around 3.4t's when fully loaded.

I have flogged that sucker through the Flinders (numerous times) Simpson and short Simpson trips (Numerous times), Cordillo downs Road (numerous times times) Broken Hill and the environs with the Outback Challenge (a chitload of times) on BFG'S, Cooper ST'S and currently Generals.

On the BFG'S never had a puncture however had a blowout due to a zillion little splits appearing in the sidewalls, so I piffed them (half worn) and went to Coopers. Some 'pajero dude' apparently figured it all out as a 'bad batch' Hmmmm! just like a bad batch of diesel. I am still convinced it was from lowering the pressures like the 4WD sages tell us to. (Shut up Roachie)

The Coopers never had a puncture as such either. I did have a large lump of steel go through the tread blocks and out through the side wall, but guess what , yep! I plugged those holes with a 'number' of strings and carried it as a, emergency, emergency spare until I had a new STT shipped out to replace it. The 'good old boys' on the OBC 05 taught me a thing or three about tyres re that Cooper.

I then had a hiccup with a rock getting in behind the rim lip and peeling it back, breaking the bead seal. The ST's didn't have an inbuilt rim protector, so I replaced them with Generals (AT'S) which have the biggest rim protector I have ever seen.

The Coopers never lost a Lug or chipped as reported and I showed those tyres no mercy. Only ever let them down in sand, as that gentleman who had a robust dialogue with Roachie the other night does. I was brought up on the dirt roads of the goldfields in West Aust where there was no such thing as raising and lowering presures unless bogged, cause the only way to re inflate the tyre was with a hand pump.

As to speed, well I let the vehicle tell me whats good for it.

I do believe My next tyres will be Cooper STT'S and the only reason others have had so called problems with Coopers is from all the presure raising and lowering they do, just like a 'pajero' (LOL) .

Now having said that, I must freely and openly admit that I reduce the presures when Rock crawling around the back of Poolamacca, Nth of Broken Hill on the Outback Challenges. The rocks there are like razors and there is no such thing as a smooth rock or rock free territory, unless you are traversing a creek bed.

COOPERS! NEVER AGAIN!! HOPE YOU TRAVEL IN CONVOY?. COULD COST YOU YOUR LIFE OTHERWISE!!! :)

I am not going to tell you which tyre I think is the best..... because I don't know that answer!! I run BFG and have been happy with them!

The reason I say that I am happy with them is that a couple of cars in our 4x4 club have run the cooper STT and both of them have had BAD results..

The first was an 80 series (DX model) who put his STT's on about 6 months after I put on my BFG muddies.... after the first set peeled lugs off the side he had a couple of them replaced under warranty.... but even then they wore out HEAPS faster than mine! I have approx 50k on my muddies and they are still going strong.. plenty of meat left on them and they haven't had it all easy with a trip to the cape thrown in for good measure. The STT's were all but worn down to the point of not being legal in the same time span with not a great deal of difference in klm's between his car and mine.

The other guy had a GU Patrol and I will be the first to say he drives it like he stole it off roading...... but the tyres were shagged in no time flat! Changed over now even though Cooper were offering to do a bit of a warranty deal with him he has decided not to go with them for a second round..

If it were me I would put a solid scratch through them as a tyre of choice and keep looking around...

I am happy with the BFG to a point... but if I was looking for the best tyre I don't think they would be the ones due to the fact that the sidewalls are a little weak and the sidewall invites dirt into the bead at low pressures.

Hope that info helped you out.

Cheers

I put a set on 2 years ago for our trip to the Centre and home via the Painted Desert and the Oodnadatta Track with the van. Have also done plenty of High Country and not had a problem. Heading off again in August with the same set on which are not even half worn and I use the car every day to go to work. I would definately have them again.

V8
I run STT's on the 100 series TD. 285/75/16. The car has lots of bolt-on steel bits so weighs about 3.25 tonnes before it is loaded for a trip and the longranger is only 1/4 filled.
I've done about 46000 on them and reckon I will get another 5000 or so.
Sadly, most of the miles are on bitumen, but we had a 5500 km trip up the Oodnadatta, across French Line, Innaminka, Tibb, White Cliffs, Broken Hill trip last year, several Vic High Country and Otways trips.
Had one puncture, that was a tek screw.
Some chipping, but nothing drastic. Some cracking between treads, again, nothing drastic.
They hold very well on bitumen, wet or dry.
Great on slippery mud/clay climbs and rocky climbs.
Don't play with pressures much, apart from last years desert trip. Run at 40 psi both ends.
Previously had ST's, the batch that was recalled. The STT's seemed quieter on the road than the ST's, but they are getting a bit noisier now as they get down.
No trouble with balance.
Would I get them again? Probably, but may look at Aussie Bridgestones as recommended by some on here, purely on price.
By the way, I run an Engel too.
Cheers