Holden Rodeo V6

Submitted: Monday, Apr 28, 2003 at 10:05
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I have a 99 model V6 Rodeo which is giving me shocking fuel economy, only just over 5 km/litre. (My tyres aren't flat and I don't drive at 160!) Just wondering if anyone out there with a similar vehicle could let me know what sort of fuel economy they get and any ideas on the cause of the problem. Any advice would be appreciated. Cheers, Keith.
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Reply By: Will - Monday, Apr 28, 2003 at 11:10

Monday, Apr 28, 2003 at 11:10
Hi Keith, I drive a V6 rodeo and a reasonably conservately and am lucky to get 300 K's from a tank, sometimes 340. (rare)
we have a fleet of these and others have worst figures than that.
Will
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Follow Up By: keith tayler - Monday, Apr 28, 2003 at 11:15

Monday, Apr 28, 2003 at 11:15
Thanks Will - not really the response I was hoping for! If that is the best that I can get then I think the old Rodeo will be getting the arse pretty quickly. That sort of fuel consumption is crazy - especially when comparitive vehicles (Triton and Hilux) get considerable better - around 7-8km/l. Know anyone wants a good Rodeo....
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Follow Up By: mick - Wednesday, Apr 30, 2003 at 21:13

Wednesday, Apr 30, 2003 at 21:13
g''day keith you haven't mentioned if your rodeo just started chewing juice or is it always that bad. a mate of mine's went from good to attrocious in just a week apparently after much head scratching it was diagnosed with a faulty oxygen sensor. just something else you might want to check, although they are expensive ,genuine there is an aftermarket substitute

cheers and good luck
mick
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Follow Up By: keith tayler - Thursday, May 01, 2003 at 08:29

Thursday, May 01, 2003 at 08:29
Mine has always been pretty average but certainly appears to have got worse lately. Oxygen sensor a good tip and will investigate that. Thanks, Keith.
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Reply By: Member - David - Monday, Apr 28, 2003 at 13:03

Monday, Apr 28, 2003 at 13:03
G'day there mate,
Don't despair- there is a fix. Our V6 gets about 7.5 km/l around town, and on a trip up to 8km/l- and we do big miles around town and when tripping.
1) Fit a 'FinerFilter' type air cleaner element- and service when required.
2) Find the thread here re: removing/replacing the ECM fuse (this made a big difference)
3)Don't 'baby' the thing when driving & don't thrash it. Use the gears and put the boot in a bit harder- but not too hard.
4)When PremiumUnleaded is cheap- put a tankful in- 5% dearer for about 10% better economy.
5)And just for interest sake we run the tyres at 36psi (if that makes a difference)
Thats my 5c worth-
See yaA bad days sailing sure beats a good day at work
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Follow Up By: keith tayler - Monday, Apr 28, 2003 at 13:44

Monday, Apr 28, 2003 at 13:44
David - thanks for that. Could you please explain the ECM fuse thing a bit more. Not sure what you mean there. Have the finer filter on order already and hoping the see a difference there. Used to driving diesels so probably should rev it a bit harder too. Cheers, Keith.
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Follow Up By: Savvas - Monday, May 05, 2003 at 09:49

Monday, May 05, 2003 at 09:49
Hi David,

Just a comment about your 5th point above. I've noted that at my local servo, 98 unleaded is always a flat 9c/litre dearer than normal unleaded. I've been keeping track of all my 'roos fuel consumption since April last year and noticed that when using 98, I do actually get 7% better fuel economy, roughly 1.7L/100km improvement. I don't get this improvement with 95 premium though.

What I didn't consider is that when the price of 98 is down, it is actually not worth buying it. For example yesterday I filled up with normal unleaded at 81.7c/L. The 98 was 90.7c/L. 98 is 11% dearer. Clearly that doesn't compare to a 7% consumption improvement.

However, as the price of ULP goes up as it did in the last couple of months to say 99.7c/L (or more), 98 was still 9c/L dearer at 108.7c/L. 98 is now only 9% dearer. Still doesn't match a 7% consumption improvement but it illustrates the point I'm making.

Assuming the difference between ULP and 98 stays at a constant 9c/L (or 5c/L, 7c/L, whatever), then it is actually more worthwhile to fill up with the higher octane fuel as the price gets dearer. Something to think about!

Nonetheless, I generally use normal ULP around town. But will always use either a 98 or Premium when on any sort of extended trip. The extra responsiveness is noticeable and makes the trip more pleasant for me as the driver. I start using the 98 two tankfuls ahead of the trip so by the time the trip rolls around, the octane rating is not diluted.

Cheers...Savvas
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Follow Up By: Savvas - Monday, May 05, 2003 at 10:06

Monday, May 05, 2003 at 10:06
PS...Make that the 4th point, not 5th!
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Reply By: Member - David - Monday, Apr 28, 2003 at 15:40

Monday, Apr 28, 2003 at 15:40
Keith,
Check out post #1469 on this forum.
It does work for the 3.2 V6 Rodeo.A bad days sailing sure beats a good day at work
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Follow Up By: keith tayler - Monday, Apr 28, 2003 at 15:51

Monday, Apr 28, 2003 at 15:51
Thanks David - bit new to the web page idea and didn't click what you meant by thread (thinking bolts....). Hope it sorts her out a bit. Cheers, Keith.
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Reply By: Member - Andrew (Bris) - Monday, Apr 28, 2003 at 20:51

Monday, Apr 28, 2003 at 20:51
Keith,

I traded my Rodeo last November. It was a 1998 V6 dual cab. I had it for two and a half years and put 140,000km on the clock while I owned it. Mostly city driving around Brisbane with a load of 600-800kg in the back for work. I always got about 6 km/litre. Country driving didn't improve economy much. Getting on the beach was even worse. Great vehicle to drive, but expensive on fuel.

Premium fuel did help a little, but the additional cost didn't make it worth while for me.
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Reply By: Member - Peter D M - Monday, Apr 28, 2003 at 21:38

Monday, Apr 28, 2003 at 21:38
keith
have a 2000 model v/6.
best, but consistant average 7km per ltr. will try the ECM trick and will let everyone know the result next week.
regards peter
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Follow Up By: Savvas - Friday, May 02, 2003 at 15:51

Friday, May 02, 2003 at 15:51
Peter,

I just have to ask....how did your Rodeo fair after the dunking in the photo?
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Reply By: Member - David - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 11:52

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 11:52
Keith
Have just completed an extended consumption test- including Sydney-Newcastle return over Easter- a bit of running around town- up to the 4WD show at RoseHill- in all 850 km of a bit of everything.
This was on std. unleaded.
850km used 111.13 litres-13.07l/100km..or in your speak about 7.6 km/l.
I'm not too unhappy with that.
Doid ya find the info about the ECM bit???
BTW...Where are ya??A bad days sailing sure beats a good day at work
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Follow Up By: keith tayler - Wednesday, Apr 30, 2003 at 08:55

Wednesday, Apr 30, 2003 at 08:55
Yep - found the info on the ECM and will give it a try shortly. I am in Darwin and the economy figures I got were from a run to Kunanurra and back (1600km total). I was sitting on around 125km/hr going across and probably 110km/hr coming back. The car had no load going across and I was towing a 12ft tinnie back (but would be surprised if that made a great difference). I was following an auto commodore back and he was getting 9-10km/l under the same conditions. Still waiting on my finer filter - things up here only happen in NT time (Not Today, Not Tomorrow!). If I can drag my rig upto around 7km/l I will be more than happy. Cheers, Keith.
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Reply By: rodeoowner - Wednesday, Apr 30, 2003 at 12:29

Wednesday, Apr 30, 2003 at 12:29
My Rodeo V6 gets constantly around 6km/litre. The vehicle is however always loaded with tools so it tips the scales at around 2400kg. I also have two ladders on top, so considering all this I thought 6km/litre was fairly good. Cheers.
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Reply By: Savvas - Saturday, May 03, 2003 at 08:23

Saturday, May 03, 2003 at 08:23
Keith ...

I have a 2000 Jackaroo which has always been thirsty since new. At the 60000km service, I asked for an off-car injector clean.

Prior to this, it was averaging 20L/100km and upto 23L/100km around town. In the last 4 weeks since the clean it has been averaging 18L/100km around town.

There were other symptoms such as pinging under load, a flat spot when cold, and a Pajero beating it in a traffic light duel (that one indicated there was something amiss) which led me to ask for the injector clean. A totally different car since then.

I originally posted the ECM reset tip. However I found that remedy to be short lived and the consumption always crept up after a week or two.
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Follow Up By: Member - David - Wednesday, May 07, 2003 at 14:34

Wednesday, May 07, 2003 at 14:34
I must be in a fortunate position here as the 'premium' juice is 5c/litre up on the normal. So when normal is 78c, as it here most Tuesdays, then it less than 5% dearer to use the 'premium'. I'm fortunate I have a 115 litre tank, so I can put off buying fuel til the price is right.A bad days sailing sure beats a good day at work
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Reply By: Member - David - Wednesday, May 07, 2003 at 14:38

Wednesday, May 07, 2003 at 14:38
To Keith
Another interesting point- do you have a tonneau cover or a canopy on your ute?? Travelling at those speeds above 100klicks, I reckon an open ute tray would make a damn good air brake.A bad days sailing sure beats a good day at work
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Follow Up By: keith tayler - Friday, May 09, 2003 at 08:35

Friday, May 09, 2003 at 08:35
I have a full cage on the back, with a tyre on the top. The cage follows the line of the cab pretty well, but the tyre sticks up a bit. Probably effects the fuel a bit, but not to level I experienced. Have fitted the finer filter which has helped slightly I believe, but have yet to get around to checking the oxygen sensor. KT.
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