Oh what a feeling!

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Was down at my local garage today to fuel up and pay me dues and there was a 78 series Troopy up on the hoist. In front of it was a new(it looked like new anyway) gearbox and transfer case sitting on the gearbox jack.

Apparently the driver had the Troopy in reverse but the truck was rolling down a hill in mud towards a closed gate. He dropped the clutch to get out of trouble and yanked the gearbox so hard that the casing cracked and the oil spurted out everywhere. T'was a tow job after that.

So much for ' built tough for Australian conditions'.................LOL

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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 13:27

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 13:27
Now now Willem it could happen to anybody.

It's usually funny when it happens to someone else though. In defence of the Toymota. It is built for Australian conditions not Australian drivers.

How are you old friend. This city life is OK but I am feeling the need for some wide open spaces. A mate from the Hill sent me some pics of Umberumberka Res overflowing and that has really fuelled the itch.

On the up side I had a nice little flight up to the north east corner of NSW for work. That would not have happened while I was out at the Hill.

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Follow Up By: Member -Signman - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 14:16

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 14:16
I guess they would have had to move all the broken Nissan motors out of the way- to fit the Toyota onto the hoist !!!!
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 14:35

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 14:35
Hi Duncs

I'm OK living out here in the sticks. A tad cold again and wishing for the tropics. Maybe I will keep going north after Warraweena......lol

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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 14:38

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 14:38
Signman

Last time I was in Alice Sps I went around the wrecking yards looking for some minor parts for the GQ. Couldnt find many Nissan parts. "They just don't break" said one wrecker. Plenty Yota bits around!!!!lol
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Follow Up By: Outnabout David (SA) - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 20:37

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 20:37
No Willem,

There are no Nissans in wrecking yard because there is a waiting list for the parts. As soon as they come in they are stripped and sold off.

The Tooyotas on the other hand are there because of accident damage but because there is no demand for parts they just keep piling up.

Oh plus they sell 10 times more Tojo's than Pootrols
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 20:42

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 20:42
Hey Davo

Another fish just landed on the deck....lol

You coming up to Warraweena for the EO National Gathering?

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Brian H (QLD) - Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 08:33

Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 08:33
Willem,

A nice bit of bait your using ........ but then again it's an easy catch lol

Brian
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Follow Up By: Outnabout David (SA) - Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 21:06

Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 21:06
Trying to make it up there Willem.
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Reply By: tempestv8 - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 13:29

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 13:29
Oh dear!

Sounds like Toyota has really under developed the new 78 series.

If the power and torque figures for the TDV8 looks the same as the 4.2TD motor, it's no coincidence. The plan is to leave the driveline (gearbox, axles, etc) untouched and just detune the motor so that it is no more powerful than the outgoing engine.

Smacks of a really cheap way of releasing a "new" model but basically reusing all the same stuff and charging a king sized premium for the entire package.

Toyota should have revised the entire drivetrain to suit the power output characteristics of this new motor. Like perhaps strengthening everything, including the same old weak differentials.

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Follow Up By: stamps - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 13:55

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 13:55
where on the orginal post does it say it was the new series TDV8...other "Assumption" I guess.

stamps
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 14:10

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 14:10
It seems the plan wasn't to leave the driveline untouched at all as the new V8 70 series does apparently have a strengthened gear box. I agree it's the weak diffs they haven't mentioned I'd be concerned with.
Cheers Craig.......
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Follow Up By: tempestv8 - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 14:14

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 14:14
Stamps,

What other motor does a 78 series Toyota come with other than the Euro IV emissions compliant TDV8?

It's implied that since this is an Australian spec 78 series, the motor is the new TDV8.

In other markets, Toyota still fit the 4.2TD motor into the 78 series, but not Down Under.

So, since he said it was a 78 series, the assumption that it's the TDV8 will hold true.

Lawrance
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Follow Up By: Kev M (NSW) - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 14:21

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 14:21
No where does it imply that it is the new TDV8,
The new TDV8 is known as a 70 series not a 78 series

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Follow Up By: Billowaggi - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 14:22

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 14:22
The 78 series has been around since 1999 and has had 1HZ 4,2 non turbo, 1HD-FTE 4.2 turbo and 1FZ-FE 4.5 petrol not to ention the new 4.5 td v8 in the current update.
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Follow Up By: tempestv8 - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 14:26

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 14:26
OK, my bad.

Kev is right. The 70 series is the one with the widened front end and the new TDV8 motor. The 78 series is the narrow front with the earlier engines, culminating with the 4.2TD.

So I'll have to retract all my comments about the 70 series, as this was not the new model with the TDV8 engine in it.

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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 22:23

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 22:23
The 70 series is a common term for all Toyota 70 series vehicles, IE 75, 76,78 and 79

There is no such thing as a "70" series model Toyota to my knowledge people were labeling the 2007 TD V8 models "The new 70 series" as until release no one knew what the model numbers for this release would be.

The current models with the new TD V8 with the widened front are the 2007 model 76 series (The 4 door model) and the 78 series Troopcarrier and the 79 series Tray.
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Reply By: Axel [ the real one ] - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 14:41

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 14:41
"dropped the clutch and yanked the g/box so hard that the casing cracked " fraid you'll have to elaborate a little Willem as that would seem to be a driver error rather than a make fault , bet if you did the same in the nissan that the box would efup as well ,
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Follow Up By: Stu-k - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 17:11

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 17:11
Mind you it was also in the mud so there would be no traction to put any load on the gearbox unless maybe it had diff lock and snow chains
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 17:43

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 17:43
I'm only relating a story as told to me

I didn't mention anythoing about Nissans, Jaguars, Euclids, Maserati's or Holdens.
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Reply By: Dave Thomson - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 14:41

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 14:41
Willum, I've always held you in high esteem did'nt know you'd stoop to Toyo bashin' though, you still got that spare key in the light that doesn't do anything on the pootrol ??? sorry mate could't resist...............
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 17:13

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 17:13
Davo

Willem would have his tongue jammed firmly in his cheek, cos some of the best 4wding days of his life have been in a yota.!! He also needs about 3 spare keys for the trol according to recent events in the riverland !!!

I think the wolly with the troopy, no matter what model, would have been better off spending his hard earned on driving lessons, rather than gearbox repairs !!!

Cheers Pesty
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 17:46

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 17:46
Dave

How can you hold anyone in high esteem of you have never met them.

Pesty

You'll keep

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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 18:03

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 18:03
hahahaha yes I will keep.

You just concentrate on filling the gaps in that beard restoration project you have going !!

Cheers Pesty
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 18:52

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 18:52
WWWHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

Bloody nice cast Willie!!!!!!!!!!!!! What can I say? Great cast; well-baited hook and just the right amount of sinker weight!!!! You should have been a professional fisherman mate!!! You certainly reeled in a few whoppers with that one!!!!!

hahahahahahahahahaha
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 15:03

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 15:03
3.O LITRE DIESEL PROBLEMS
The early 3.0 litre engine was mostly a drama especially in government and ex police owned vehicles. Saying this there are some early models around still running fine and these are mostly well serviced privately owned vehicles. Some of the symptoms to look for are oil leaks around the front of the sump, oil ingress into the intercooler, air conditioner compressor problems, cracking suspension mounts, weak rear pan-hard rods, seat recliner handles loosening and falling off, rear suspension noise, clutch/dual mass flywheel dramas (see below) early like around the 65 000 km mark, 5th gear splines in the gearbox stripping off when towing or doing a-lot of highway work (this problem is with most Patrol gearbox's and supposed to be rectified after 2002), mass air flow sensor, fuel pumps (on early models 2000) and the biggest problem is pistons blowing. The main piston to blow is number 4 however we have had number 1 go as well mainly from over fuelling. Accessory belt hydraulic tensioner failing. Usually chopping out the bushes and at $200.00 to replace hurts the pocket. Most patrols have a tendency to drift off to the left and a castor correction plate fitted to the left side usually rectifies this. The Patrol wheel wobble is well known and after many attempts the underlying problem is still undiscovered. The steel wheel rims are the most probable cause but we come across loose front wheel bearings and scarcely grease packed bearings often on near new vehicles.

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Follow Up By: Dave Thomson - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 15:16

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 15:16
Apart from that, they're a bloody good car...........................
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 17:53

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 17:53
Aaah Doug seeing as you now need to make an attack for no reason at all I shall respond.

100 series front end problems ( just ask Des Lexic and others )

Remember the 80 series Front End problems of the 1990's

OR the Troopy Gearbox problems of the same era

OR the bloody rust of the 50 and 60 series Yotas

Them and all other vehicles are just recycled earth mate!

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 23:31

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 23:31
Willem
That was no attack..... your not bleedin' yet are ya ,,,.........lol

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Follow Up By: D-Jack - Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 01:12

Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 01:12
Doug, it seems the article missed brake pads falling out!
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Reply By: Member - Michael J (SA) - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 15:12

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 15:12
Gawd you've got a mean streak..........LOL LOL

See what you've gone and done now........

Quiet day in the 'Boro ?????????..lol lol

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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 17:58

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 17:58
Yer better watch reverse gear in that old jalopy of yours....lol

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Reply By: Dave Thomson - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 15:20

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 15:20
I blame Willum, HE started it, far be it from me to instigate trouble but I think a suspension could be in order here............
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 15:42

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 15:42
Naaah, he was just dtirring the possums, probably gone missin in his nissan by now :))))
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 15:42

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 15:42
Ooopsies ...stirring the possums, of course. Blasted reading glasses.
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Follow Up By: Axel [ the real one ] - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 15:49

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 15:49
Tis all done in jest ,great fun till somebody gets hurt , tojo owners have feelings too you know,
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 15:53

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 15:53
Yep, if you cut we possums, we bleed LOL
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 17:55

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 17:55
What suspension? Do you need new springs Dave?
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Follow Up By: blue one - Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 07:24

Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 07:24
who needs a cuddle!!

lol
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Reply By: Moose - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 16:06

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 16:06
You're a bloody stirrer Willem :-)
Cheers from the Moose
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 17:57

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 17:57
All I did was to report a broken gearbox housing. It could happen to any Toyota!

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Follow Up By: jeffwa - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 21:52

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 21:52
Is this the Second cast? LOL.

I can't believe people are still taking this seriously! :-P
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Follow Up By: Member - Brian H (QLD) - Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 08:39

Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 08:39
Sits waiting for the little fishies to bite lol. plenty of fishies in this pool to take the bait LOL.

Brian
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Reply By: Richard Kovac - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 21:57

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 21:57
It just goes to show how bad South Australian drivers are >. LOL
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Follow Up By: Willem - Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 07:12

Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 07:12
Actually, the driver is from Western Australia working for the gas pipeline mob.

There seems to be something weird about Troopcarrier owners and drivers. They all have these delusions of superiority. Might have to chuck them in with the Landrover mob but they're in a class of their own tho'......

LOL

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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 13:03

Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 13:03
Quote: "There seems to be something weird about Troopcarrier owners and drivers. They all have these delusions of superiority"......................

hahahahaha Never a truer word spoken Willie........of course we wouldn't include Lucy in that though, would we!!!! (not much!!!!!!! hahahaha)

Now I'm just gunna sit back in my recliner and wait til one those pesky droopy carrier types takes MY bait too......hahahahaha
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Follow Up By: Axel [ the real one ] - Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 13:19

Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 13:19
What realy makes me laugh is trol owners who continually spruik the virtues of their machine yet whose machine is not anywhere near a patrol : aka powerd by chev cause trol dont have the guts from the factory !!
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Follow Up By: Willem - Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 15:47

Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 15:47
Nice low-rider street machine you've got there in your Rig Pic, Axel
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Follow Up By: Member - Michael J (SA) - Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 16:03

Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 16:03
Quote: "There seems to be something weird about Troopcarrier owners and drivers. They all have these delusions of superiority"......................

Roachie, Roachie, Roachie..........that's not nice. Might be true, but not nice.

S'pose we are a little bit weird, and definitely superior but don't tell everyone................LOL LOL
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 19:53

Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 19:53
I see ya-man Axel has made it to the top of the list.. LOL

And stop using my name in vain....

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Reply By: Dave Thomson - Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 15:21

Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 15:21
OOOH Axel, that was nasty, just remember mate, god made lemons but it took a company like Nissan to put wheels on em........LOL
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Reply By: Member-Granpa Joe - Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 20:02

Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 20:02
Gee Willem,
I haven't seen so many people bagging nissans and proclaiming the toyota is the best thing since sliced bread for a long time !!!!
And just from describing a mere observation at the local workshop , Strewth !!!!
I hope Toyota gives you guys a massive discount off the massively inflated prices of a new vehicle after coming back with those wobbly replies !
ROTFLMAO. : )
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Follow Up By: Axel [ the real one ] - Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 20:15

Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 20:15
Funny how the only people who proclaim a tojo to be overpriced are nissan owners , no other brand owner is so inclined , must be envy and disappointment at having to settle for a troll.
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Follow Up By: Member-Granpa Joe - Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 20:28

Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 20:28
Well I am absolutely wrapped with my vehicle (now that You brought it up)
and am quite aware of strengths and weaknesses in a lot of manufacturers vehicles so go for gold if you want buddy, I don't have a gripe to bare.

Sounds like your a bit stressed out. (Ps. I hadn't read as far as your replies at the time I posted above, although having read them now..... are you employed by yota's PR dept. Lol )
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Reply By: Member - Borgy.. (SA) - Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 11:28

Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 11:28
Hi Willem

I have said it all along on this site , its always fine for the TOYOTA owners to bag the bleep e out of us Patrol owners over the well known 3litre problems and the 5th gear probs , and we cop it on the chin, however as soon as someone mentions anything about the untouchable TOYOTA watch the bullets fire I drive a Nissan because i like Nissans and its my personal choice ..not because Joe Blow thinks i cant afford a TOYOTA...i dont want a TOYOTA..just like TOYOTA owners probly dont want to own Nissans......But when certain people resort to racism and other snide comments its really getting beyond a joke .....so to all you idiots out there that cant take a joke or handle comments about a certain type of vehicle i say GROW UP and get a life ....or else just F*** OFF and go find some other forum to spit your dummies on Hell we are all supposed to be grown up adults here ..i havent heard this much dribble since i was a toddler in kindergarten ...hahaha

Anyway Cheers everyone and have a great day......Dave
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 19:54

Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 19:54
Settle down there's kids on at this time of night.. :-)
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