madigan line

Submitted: Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 20:23
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hello,looking at doing the madigan line soon , has any one done this recently?.we are travelling west to east starting from mt dare and coming out at poeppels cnr with two toyotas both turbo diesels and well equiped for remote long distance travel.any info on conditions and average fuel usage would be a great help.
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Reply By: Member - Ian S (NT) - Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 20:51

Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 20:51
Hi haysie,

I was out there last week. The track after Camp 8 is hard to follow and is difficult, if not impossible to 12. You will have the advantage of following our track but the disadvantage in that we lost it so often we were crossing raw dune systems. get yourself a good track plot from a good year to follow to run in your GPS system.
After Camp 12 it has less new vegetation and is easier to follow the track.

As said a few times the section after the Twins past Camp 3 and 4 is in aboriginal land and you won't get a permit to transit. Try if you like, I don't mind being made a liar if you can get one! The Hale River floodout is covered with bonnet high vegetation and it is impossibe to find the track.

There is a bypass the goes directly S from the Twins then E to avoid passing through 2 parcels of aboriginal land that eventually comes out on the Colson and from there you can head directly for Camp 6.

It will be an event!! Enjoy. Introduce yourself when you come through Mt Dare.

Cheers
Ian@Mt Dare
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Follow Up By: haysie222 (SA) - Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 21:40

Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 21:40
thanks ian for the info we will be up there late june and will be meeting other vehical there as we will be looking around for a week before we tackle the madigan.just one question if i may,is andado the only place you need to gain permission from?
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 10:03

Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 10:03
Gday Ian,
Thats amazing that camp 8 onwards is hard to find - certainly different to the past few years. Hope you had a great time out there. We won't get to the Simpson this year - heading out west next month.

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Reply By: Member - Ian S (NT) - Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 22:09

Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 22:09
Hi Haysie,

If you follow the 'ápproved' route avoiding Camp 1 and bypassing East Bore, you can get you permission from Mt Dare to cross Andado property.

Otherwise call them direct.

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Follow Up By: haysie222 (SA) - Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 22:25

Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 22:25
thanks ian see ya late june.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 10:22

Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 10:22
Haysie,
I'll assume your vehicles are both 1Hz with aftermarket turbos.
Fuel usage varies with the conditions - from Ian's description sounds like might need a little more than usual.
In 2004, from Alice Springs to Birdsville (1000km), there were two turboed 1Hz that were well laden and used 240litres. Two normally aspirated 1Hz's used about 220 litres.
We'd carry 300litres for the 6 cyl diesels from Alice Springs, so maybe 250 litres usable from Mt Dare would be OK.

You're crawling over spinifex at about 8kph average for days on end, so your fuel usage is high. It can be pretty hard on suspensions, so try not to rush it. Last year our group had a panhard rod problem on a GU and a broken control arm on a Prado which we welded up. In 2004 our group had an IFS 100series have an A-arm failure. I think Ian had some broken spring shackles last year.

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Follow Up By: Member - Ian S (NT) - Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 13:22

Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 13:22
Hi Phil,

Had a 'Freds 4WD Conversions'' coil fitted on the rear of the 79 series earlier this year and have tested it through over 4000 kms of Simpson and North Simpson. It is magic. The same country that broke the EFS rear springs and tore out the air bags went really well with the coil over spring setup. It even felt like a lighter vehicle even though the 79 is heavier than the troopy in touring weight.

The farm truck is delightful with the pod!!

Enjoy your travelling
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Reply By: Crackles - Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 15:35

Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 15:35
Gaday Haysie, we went over last year & found fuel consumption not too bad concidering the slow going & softer than usual sand. Around 25% more than a standard Simpson crossing in a 1HZ cruiser. I think it worked out roughly to 24L per 100. We used around 190L from Mt Dare to the Plenty Highway out north via the Hay. South through Poeppels will probably use a little more. Unless you get alot of wind beforehand, a 1/2 reasonable set of tracks should start to form that you can follow by the time you go. We carried 320L of deisel, 150L of water but went no where near finishing either despite showers on 3 nights. Shed all your excess weight, it will be far easier on both you & the car.
The Twins south around the Aboriginal land to Camp 6 was the roughest section for us.
Cheers Craig..........
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