Headlight Lamp Upgrade , Value for Money.

I might add that the 190w was for low beam, the high beam is the equivalent of 150w from memory, not as marked an increase as the low beam but still significanly larger than the OEM high beam (60w).

In NSW it is illegal to drive with foglights except during poor visibility.

Same with Qld. Illegal to use except in fog or rain.
I think there is a rule that the fog lights should be on and low beam off.
And I would argue some of those 'fog' lights are more driving lights.
ADR compliance question there which car dealers can't seem to confirm when asked.
Don't have the cut off beam of a fog light, or aimed that low either.
Might have to mount my super oscars down low and give the wankers a flash. :o)
Havn't done it yet because I would have to move them again before hitting the dirt.

Sorry Glenn, that last one was a bit OT.
I have put in 100/90 QH bulbs to replace the 60/55.
Seem to improve the system with out causing anybody any glare hassle, and doesn't overload the standard wiring or relays.
Did try 130/100 QH, but no appreciable gain, the wiring might be a bit light for doubling the output with too much voltage drop.

You're right DIO, they are a pose etc, the people driving such vehicles with the fog lights on are regarded as "LAM's" (Look At Me).

Cheers,
John D

You're all sooks, I have the fog lights on my XR6 and use them all the time, they give excellent close in light and reeally fill out the beam pattern. I have found that the Ford lights are better controlled than the Commodore ones, the Commodore ones flare all over the place, the Falc ones done flare and dazzle at all.

Hmmmm,

Are we perhaps getting confused with the terminology of "fog lights" guys.
(Or is it just me)

Some vehicle manufacturers (Holden and Ford included) have followed the European practice of having another set of lights down low, under the bumper level and directed at an angle outwards to illuminate the side of the road better.

To my understanding "fog lights" can be anything from spot/flood/driving lights to low mounted lights directed forward but yellow in colour.
These yellow fog lights I think are the ones not allowed on in "normal" driving conditions.

Personally, I find any vehicle with more than one set of headlights on, distracting when they are appraching you head on. When these "additional" lights are added to the "dork" mobile, they can be worse, as far as glare is concerned, especially when they are brighter than the standard headlights above.

Now my '99 model Jackaroo is not known for the brightest lights around.
I probably took one step and upgraded the headlight globes (H4) to Narva "Arctic Blue" which in fact give out a brilliant white light, not blue tinged. These globes are ADR approved and "street legal". The next step would have been Phillips "Blue Vision" but these were twice the price and I don't think, twice as good.

The Narva globes do not change the wattage or heat output at all and therefore will not have an adverse impact on the reflectors.

I find the illumination is definitely whiter than the standard globes and is quite sufficient for normal night driving.
If I need more illumination I have the IPF's to light up the road ahead, but I'm usually "in camp" and sitting around a fire with a glass of red by the time it gets dark.

Hey Bonz, I know you are proud of your XR6, and it is a good car, but are the low beam lights that bad that you need to run extra lights? :o)))
Agree with you about the commodores lower lights. They do shine all over the place, and I often give them a flash of my high beam. When I am down lower in the Golf, it is a real pain in the eyes.
Find WRXs are the same, when they run around town with low beam and their lower lights on. Given up trying to stay ahead of the WRXs, just let them past. The old 78 Golf GTi is a second or two slower over the 1/4 mile than a WRX which makes it hard, but it gives them a good run for thier money.

Sandman, the lower lights must be considered 'fog' lights by the car manufacturer since they can be seperately switched to the high beam. If they are any type of driving light, they should be set up so they can only come on with high beam.

Oldplodder,

Mate, my wife's car has these extra lights on it, but they are controlled by the main headlight switch. (i.e. they are only on when the headlights are on)
They can be then be "manoeuvred" to provide limited control of direction.

There is no way I could call these lights "fog lights".
Factory fitted yes, but still bullsh*t IMO. Probably included because the smaller diameter headlights on her sports convertable do not provide adequate sideways illumination..

Now, in years to come, there would be little to stop some future owner from putting higher powered "blue" globes in because it "looks cool". (I don't think they are sealed beam)

Cant see much difference Paul

I can vouch for that, Roachie flashed me in his drive-way,,,,
That didn't come out that good ,,, did it ,,( hehehehe )

But Roachie thats too much $$$$$$$$$,,,, wonder how those " el-cheepo " ones from Ebay stack up
Cheers Mate
Bucky

Mine were only $230, and down to $150pr now.

Paul

Might follow this one up a bit just so I can see the Missus's face when I start telling her about the $1600 light bulbs I want.

On the other hand I could just start here and will be in the goodbooks when I save $1450 and get the IPF ones.

Glenn.

Hows it going Muzzgit ,

All the switches do is turn relays on or off . Contacts in the relay ,rated to the power requirement of the load , do the heavy switching work. This protects the switches from the load current . A good example is comparing the thin wiring of the ignition switch to the more hefty cable of the starter motor it controls.

Have you just had all your switches replaced , maybe someone was fibbing to you.

Thanks for your reply , hope this helps you out as well.

Glenn.

Hi Glenn, I realise spotties run thru a relay but was not sure about the main lights.

As stated below about the philips globes, I tried them in both my cibie spotlights (H1) and the high beam of the Patrol (H4) and was not impressed with either.

I took the H1 out of the cibies almost straight away and a mate is now using them in the high beam of his 80 series and the H4 came out a bit later and also went into the high/low of his 80 series. Gee, he's done fairly well out of me then, hasn't he!

I then put in the fatboys and I don't think there is a better option other than HID. I do not have a problem with retro fitting HID to spotlights but it is illegal to do it to headlights of a GU patrol.

Cheers,

Muzz