Cost effective 2nd vehicle options

Submitted: Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 13:06
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Hi All, hoping to receive some advice/comments if possible.

We currently have a 2000 model Jackaroo (~120k) as our only car. We aim to keep this car for the term of it's natural life for the purposes of trips etc. etc., and as a result don't want to trash it in the daily grind getting to work around Sydney etc.

To this end, I have been getting PT to work (~90mins each way) but this is becoming tiring - I would therefore like to buy a cheap run around (sub $5k) for this purpose. I would like it to be relatively safe and reliable (kids down the track), and also be capable of handling our large labrador (see rig pic) as well as tow the tinnie to the ramp etc. etc. at a pinch. Reasonable fuel efficiency would be nice however I get subsidised fuel through my job so not a major issue.

Not asking much am I.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what to go for? I have been thinking about mid-80's SWB Pajero's as a start, around 200k with the 2.6L engine. These seem to be in the $2k - $5k range depending on condition.

Any other idea's?

Thanks in advance.

Gav
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Reply By: madfisher - Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 15:05

Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 15:05
why not just buy a ef or el falcon wagon. Do you really need 2 4bys?

2.6 pajs with 200ks are usually due for a engine rebuild if this has not already been done. I would go for a 4runner petrol engine. brand new 4y petrol motors in a crate are available for about $1500.00 and they usually do big ks anyway also the last of the old jacks with the efi 2.6 are better vehicles than the early pajs from this era. The motors do huge ks as I believe they are a chrome bvore motor the same as trucks. These are available for less than 5 grand especially in swb
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Follow Up By: Member - Gavin B (NSW) - Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 15:19

Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 15:19
Thanks madfisher, good info.

No don't particularly need two fourby's, the reasoning behind leaning in that direction is that I wanted something small/mid size (hence SWB), strong (as opposed to Hyundai Excel for example) and will run for a long time if looked after.

I've owned 3 commodores (VN, VS and VX), and although great cars all, they are big and chew plenty of fuel around town.

I want something smaller that will last for a while and would be worth replacing the engine in a few years if required (e.g. your suggestion of the 4runner, mind you these are pretty big too).

Open to the idea of a station wagon etc. of course, doesn't need to be a 4WD specifically, although does need to lend itself to ease of access for the dog (i.e. sedan is useless to me).

Probably being too specific with my requirements I realise.
Thanks again
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Follow Up By: madfisher - Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 19:40

Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 19:40
Gavin hi again,
mate a 2.6 paj will use more fuel than your jack arround town , and a lot more than a commodore. As we currently run a 98 3.5 Jack, a 93 22r 4runner, and a nh paj.
The fuel co must love us. The runner is the slowest but most economical, about 11l/100 on a trip and about 13 arround town. The paj is the most thirsty but still better than a 2.6. My 4runner is for sale but have not got arround to putting it in the trader yet, but it is listed under country cars nsw
Ferozas are also reliable little beasts and cheap to run. I will get shot down in flames but I would stay away from old diesels unless the motor has been replaced as they cost more to rebuild than the car is worth
Cheers pete
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Reply By: GoneTroppo Member (FNQ) - Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 15:56

Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 15:56
Why not try Subaru Liberty wagon early to mid nineties 150 to 200k's should be in your bracket.

All the people that I've spoken to have raved about them. They seem a pretty solid car. Lot's around so parts should be available.

This may not be an issue for you but they have kept their looks pretty well (ie not dated)
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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 16:00

Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 16:00
Back in October I bought a 1993 Camry with 12mths rego for $3000. My daughter is running this up and down to Wollongong on a daily basis (5 days per week) it costs about $65 per week for fuel.

We had to put some tyres on it and a timing belt but apart from that it is reliable and cheap.

There are Camry wagons available. No it is not the most exciting car available but it is practical, reliable and cheap.

Duncs
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Reply By: Member - Dunworkin (WA) - Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 16:12

Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 16:12
Hi Gavin B, Hubby and I retired a few years ago and gave our car (my special car, was a mothers day present in 1993) to our son who needed another car at the time. We thought that we would only need one vehicle but with all the running around we do we are clocking up the Ks on the Patrol which like you, we want to keep for 4WD until we need it no more, so was looking around for say maybe a camry or the llikes, however, as luck would have it our son now needs a bigger car because of an increase in family so they have bought a people mover and guess what, we have my car back again albeit an ED falcon which we are finding is much cheaper to run than the Patrol.

To answer your question, I personally would go into something like the camry (which are cheaper to run than your falcons/ commodores) or that size vehicle and not worry about another 4wd.

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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 17:21

Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 17:21
My favourite old cars are the 86-90 Nissan R31 Skylines. They have a brilliant 6 cyl motor that doesn't wear out, and everything thing else is reliable or easily fixed.

If fuel was an issue, I go for the N14 (1991-94) and N15 (1995-2000) Nissan Pulsars. Nothing much ever goes wrong with them, and the 1.6 motor was ahead of its time. If you want something fast, buy an N14 Pulsar with the 2 litre motor either on the SSS or Q models.

My son's had a couple of Skylines and my daughters all drive N15 pulsars!
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Reply By: Motherhen - Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 18:42

Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 18:42
Go for something in 2wd, and keep capital expenditure low. What you spend will go in depreciation, so if you buy something cheap but solid, you won't lose much. I drive a 1979 Commodore sedan to work; not brilliant on fuel economy, but i don't use it for long trips. Solid and safe. Old enough that it doesn't matter if the dog travels on the back seat. Cheap enough to replace the motor if needed (it had a recent recon in it when i bought it, so shouldn't need replacing again). I could probably sell it for not much less than i paid for it a few years ago.

We also have a Camry 1990 sedan (daughter drives it). Very economical but the motor was not cheap to replace.
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Reply By: Muzzgit [WA] - Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 19:50

Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 19:50
If your fuel is subsidised then anything is possible !!!

A solid holden or ford wagon with air (not commondore) would fit the bill.
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Reply By: Martyn (WA) - Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 20:52

Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 20:52
Gavin,
Not sure how much help I'm going to be to you, I did the same thing I bought a 2000 Patrol about four years ago now, used it for everythng and realised that I really wanted a bush hack for just the running around.
I bought a 1985 Range Rover you can see in my rig pix, had great fun, looked after it and the only thing I had to replace in that I had to replace in four years where the starter motor and radiator, couldn't of asked for a better "hack". I sold this recently and bought a 1989 Range Rover sub $5k, supposed to be the best year to buy, for me it was a money tin, I spent a lot on it an ammount I won't own up to to get this vehicle to where I had my old one, with the added electronic wizardry, no chance. Someone over East now owns a top rangie, just wasn't the one for me.
Depends what you want and also I suppose your mechanical competence, if you can fix these things yourself go for it, I've now purchased a LR Discovery 1998 2.5 tubo diesel, bought it in Adelaide and drove it back. So far overjoyed with it, had on small water leak which I've now fixed, has a slight oil leak ( which is quite normal for LR's) I'll get to one day. If you want a run about then the advice above fits if you want a fourby to have a play with and not risk the good vehicle then something like this should fit. I'm not sure where you are at with this, I like my fourbys, not really that keen on driving a Camry, not that there is anything wrong with the vehicle it's just not what I want to drive.
Good luck with the choice.
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Reply By: BennyGU - Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 21:40

Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 21:40
The 2.6 Paj is thirsty around town and not too flash on the highway....and shows nothing for it. Had a LWB one for a year as a carryover vechile in 94, was worse than my EH with a 253 auto jobbie shoe horned in it around town around 16l + with a min of 12's on the highway.

I would reccomend the Feroza that someone put forward before. A mate has one that is now being used as a learner for his brats: the 1.6 is a late eighties corolla motor and is just like a corolla: bulletproof and goes hard. It does rev it tits off on the highway (3300rpm at 100km/hr) but this is going to be fixed with bigger tyres he's been saying ...... for a while. Just dont expect too much comfort in it, fore-aft rocking is worse than a tinny in a seaway, but to date its been a good little truck. Has pulled a 17 foot centre console with a 115 Yamaha when every other buggers truck was otherwise occupied, low range was selected as soon as a boat ramp was in sight though. Another thing you may learn is something suzuki owners have a doctorate in: stuff the zook, not too much room once a couple of cartons get put in the back.

Ben
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Reply By: aka - Tuesday, Jun 05, 2007 at 08:57

Tuesday, Jun 05, 2007 at 08:57
Look at finding a PEUGEOT diesel good car and great m.p.g
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