Tail Lights For Gu

Submitted: Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 11:06
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Does anybody know where I can get a wiring kit or loom to connect the tail lights in the body of a series 3 GU Patrol wagon. I feel it is a shame that these are not connected at the factory.
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Reply By: GUPatrol - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 11:13

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 11:13
All the wiring is there, the problem is that the lights have blanks instead of having the globe holders in them (easily fixed).
For Series 1 and 2 the lights are all red which makes it harder but you can get the arab specs ones from Nissan and just plug them in.
THe drivers side needs earth and reverse wire, (that is all).
I have done them on mine and now I have reverse on both sides and yellow blinkers, tail and stop lights.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 11:20

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 11:20
www.offroader.com.au sells the arab spec lights,

there are reasons they are not connected, ADR's for one.
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Follow Up By: GUPatrol - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 14:55

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 14:55
ADR does not say you can't have them connected....
ADR say that vehicles with spare on the back to one side need to have the tail lights down on the bumper...
As long as you leave the bumper ones untouched, you can connect the other ones, specially the bloody reverse which is only one!!
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 17:19

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 17:19
But as soon as you obscure the light which you should be able to see from 45 degrees from either side I think it is, you create a problem.. if they want to be anal, they can defect your car.
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Follow Up By: joc45 - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 17:25

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 17:25
I guess the rationale was that the tyre will obscure the flashing light. Only thing is that if you are following at an angle where the lights are obscured; ie, are positioned to the rear left of the Patrol when it's turning right, then the signal is probably of no interest or use to you anyway. Anywhere else on the road, and one can clearly see the required lights.
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Follow Up By: damien - Wednesday, Apr 30, 2003 at 09:42

Wednesday, Apr 30, 2003 at 09:42
If ADR's were the reason, how does a company like Holden get away with having the lights work on the Jackaroo!!
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Follow Up By: GUPatrol - Wednesday, Apr 30, 2003 at 10:11

Wednesday, Apr 30, 2003 at 10:11
Damien,
That is exactly right.

I checked all this and did my homework, providing you do not remove/cancel the original lights you can add whatever you want, Prados also have both working....
Landcruisers who add the kaymar rear spare holder also end up with two sets.
Will
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Apr 30, 2003 at 11:14

Wednesday, Apr 30, 2003 at 11:14
How does Jeep get away with spotties on the roof??

its a YMMV, but there would be a reason Missan dont do it, it was talked about AGES ago on the patrol list and this is the reason given.

again
YMMV.
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Reply By: damien - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 11:39

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 11:39
Apparently you can use the wiring & sockets from an old Skyline - try a wreckers.
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Reply By: Michael - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 15:54

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 15:54
Hi Crow, if you dont want to go to the expense of the arab Lights, you can get dyes to colour the bulbs or buy coloured bulbs like most of the new retro cars have now. I think the series 3 lights look neater.. Michael
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Reply By: Member -BJ (Sydney) - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 17:13

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 17:13
Did mine on series 2 auto elec just put holders in & used existing wireing
bobWish i was still here / Gulf in July
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Reply By: David N. - Wednesday, Apr 30, 2003 at 22:03

Wednesday, Apr 30, 2003 at 22:03
The ADR's which require extra lights in the bumper bar are crazy. Some engineer in Canberra thinks he knows more than Nissan, Mitsubishi, Toyota, etc etc etc
Atleast with the original lights you can still see them side on eg: when a car is half way thru an intersection at 90 degrees to you. With the replacement lights in the bar this is not possible. We are the ONLY country in the world which requires this stupid mod and we pay a lot more for vehicles because of the stupid requirement.
Bit like Telstra requiring unique specs for aussie phones (the old AUSTEL sticker) which meant nearly identical phones were half the price in Singapore or the US. Why do we have to go our own way on these things???
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Reply By: Damian M - Thursday, May 01, 2003 at 21:40

Thursday, May 01, 2003 at 21:40
I am an Auto Electrician and the reason for the original lights on the Nissans and so forth not being used and the lights in the Bumper instead is because the Original lights do not conform to ADR Specs. However, You can have the Original lights connected or working as long as you do not disconnect the lights ne the Bumper and they remain working. The lights in the bumper do conform to ADR Spec. If the original lights were disconected because of the placement of the Spare Wheel, How come the early Nissans and Toyotas and various other vehicles had normal Tail Lights?

I have done a lot of research because of the legalities for me in reconnecting or making work, the Original lights.
When running your own business it makes sense to make sure you don't break any laws and leave yourself open to a law suit.
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Reply By: The Crow - Friday, May 02, 2003 at 16:16

Friday, May 02, 2003 at 16:16
Thanks Guys I don,t intend to disconnect the lights in the rear bar but I think with the extra lights connected it will help make the rear more visible. ( ie. why go to the extent to put high mount stop lights and cancel the rear body lights.)
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Reply By: The Crow - Friday, May 02, 2003 at 16:16

Friday, May 02, 2003 at 16:16
Thanks Guys I don,t intend to disconnect the lights in the rear bar but I think with the extra lights connected it will help make the rear more visible. ( ie. why go to the extent to put high mount stop lights and cancel the rear body lights.)
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