Diesel Fuel

Submitted: Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 13:16
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Just returned from a business trip to Auckland, NZ, on the Anzac Day weekend and was suprised to see that they are paying between 55c - 58c NZ per litre for diesel fuel, which is about 50c - 52c Aus$. Their ULP was around 98c - 102c NZ. Goes to show how much our Govt is ripping us off with the Excise and GST etc for diesel. Maybe it's about time we started to say something rather than grumble to ourselves.
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Reply By: Wazza (Vic) - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 13:50

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 13:50
It is in the way they tax diesel cars and trucks by the km.

Diesel vehicles are required to pay a road user tax based on the number of kilometres driven. This is purchased in advance in multiples of 1000km at the local post office.

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/factsheets/38.html

Here's an extract (April 2002):

A 2-tonne distance licence costs $24.74 per 1,000km.
A 3-tonne distance licence costs $26.83 per 1,000km.
A 4-tonne distance licence costs $28.36 per 1,000km.

There is also a transaction fee when you buy each licence, regardless of the distance you purchase. The fee is based on how you pay:

Counter sale through a RUC agent: $9.56 per licence
Phone or fax: $6.98 per licence
RUC card at BP shops and Truckstops: $5.06 per licence
Direct Connects (for fleet vehicles only): $3.38.Cheers,
Wazza
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Follow Up By: Rusty - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 14:42

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 14:42
Hi wazza
I read that link etc. you posted. There must be something missing. Otherwise no one could afford a diesel in NZ. Either that or they don't drive very far.

Correct me if I'm wrong but $24.74x10,000klm= $247,400.00. That certainly makes it expensive driving in NZ. Surely this can't be correct.

Regards
Rusty
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Follow Up By: Time - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 15:13

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 15:13
Rusty

Move the decimal point a few spots to the left, i.e. 10,000ks would be $247.40, 100,000ks would be $2,474.00, 1,000,000ks would be $24,740.00 and 10,000,000 woule be $247,400.00.

Cheers

Buggerlux
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Follow Up By: Rusty - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 15:19

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 15:19
Thanks for the correction

Told you I wasn't to bright sometimes
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Follow Up By: joc45 - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 16:20

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 16:20
Sounds like a beaurocratic nightmare...
Gerry
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Follow Up By: GaryInOz (Vic) - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 16:29

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 16:29
"But MrTaxman/officer, my speedo is broken...". Sounds like a good market for "quick speedo disconnects"
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Follow Up By: ThePublican - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 16:49

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 16:49
Think of the possibilities to defraud the taxman,,,,diesel generator at home that "just " happens to use 100/1000 lt per week yet never even gets started.
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Reply By: colin - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 19:37

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 19:37
you dont have to drive far in NZ to get to nice places, you can walk from one coast to the other coast in auckland in half a day so dont try and compare prices for any sort of product. Beautiful country but to bloody cold, kiwi living in oz. Col
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Reply By: jaycee - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 19:57

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 19:57
Diesel kilometers are all extra to the cost of the fuel which is also a better quality than in OZ as our is refined in Singapore and is also low sulphur diesel. My understanding is your diesel is refined in Aust and i hear that you do tend to have quite a few problems with the quality. Just bought diesel k's for my 2 tonne truck 5,000 km's cost $144 NZ. This is against the petrol cost of around $1.05 (something like that) per litre of ulp.
Your cost is all lumped in. Buying seperate k's is a pain. Fines if you get caught without diesel k's sticker, about $50 per 1000k's.
ANDDDDD by the way it's not so cold here, you just need a cuddly woman to snuggle up too.!
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Follow Up By: Wazza (Vic) - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 21:24

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 21:24
True, I just got back from Dunedin planning our wedding for next year. A mate there was talking up his 4 wheel driving stories from the previous week. Sounds awesome. I really have to go and check out more of the west coast. Our ship is currently working offshore New Plymouth (Taranaki Basin) and due to go back next week. Was really nice there 4 weeks ago when I was there, shorts and t-shirt. Not looking forward to going back next week, just got an email from the guys at work now sayingour ship is copping a flogging in 5 meter seas.Cheers,
Wazza
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Follow Up By: colin - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 22:44

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 22:44
aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh miss thoush cuddly kiwi girls ColXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Reply By: Salty - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 23:18

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 at 23:18
Karl,
The reason Oz diesel is dearer than ULP is because the oil companies are trying to recoup their losses on petrol from their discount cycles!! Regards Salty.
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Reply By: bruce.h - Wednesday, Apr 30, 2003 at 21:21

Wednesday, Apr 30, 2003 at 21:21
gday all
corect me if im wrong but here goes
NZ
2tonne truck cost $144 every 5000km to licence
so 20 000kms cost $576
cost to run on deisel lets say 16lt per 100 kms
( Not sure how acurate this may be)
so 20 000kms will use 3200 lt @ a cost of 56c per lt = $1792
total cost per 20 000 kms = $2368

Aus
no kms fee
same formular 16lt per 100kms
20 000kms traveled 3200lt used @ acost of 96c per lt = $3072
total cost per 20 000kms = $3072
does this sound correct if so NZ dont look so bad
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Follow Up By: jaycee - Thursday, May 01, 2003 at 17:11

Thursday, May 01, 2003 at 17:11
Not bad but your diesel cost is too low. Try around the 70c per litre mark. I'm not 100% sure cos i dont pay for the fuel, lucky me. Based on our cost around the 70c mark its getting around the $2900 to $3000 mark.
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Reply By: Wil - Friday, May 02, 2003 at 11:30

Friday, May 02, 2003 at 11:30
G'day Guys

I have done the sums. If you compare the cost of running a Petrol Cruiser vs a Diesel Cruiser in NZ, you will come to appreciate the fact that the larger Diesel, with greater economy (ltrs per 100Km). You should have a slight saving, after paying for Road user charges (RUC) & the 5000km servicing. That is why Toyota only stock Diesel Cruisers in NZ.

Dealers in Kiwiland often refer to Petrol GX Cruiser as an Australian model. Anything under the 3Lts (Engine size), there is a gravitation towards petrol motor.

RUC only applies to Road borne vehicles. Diesel generators & tractors do not attrack the charges.

Big 6 or more, Turbo diesel is definately the way to go! Can't wait to see Common rail on the Cruisers or a Big 6 TD Nissan Patrol with Auto gear box. We are the passionate few, who want a big, mean & lasting beast. Not a "Good die young" high performance 4. We pay enough for these babies..

Cheers

Wil

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