27 volts

Submitted: Saturday, Jun 16, 2007 at 18:55
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hi all,,, just done an oil change on the old 91 troopy and thought i'd check the battery levels. The main battery was down a little bit, but not much, it normaly reads between 14-15 volts, anyway i topped it up with ordinary water, jumped back in the truck and started it up. The digital readout read 27 volts!!!!!!!!!!! Does anyone think that the volts may settle down after a run? It has never read that high.
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Saturday, Jun 16, 2007 at 19:01

Saturday, Jun 16, 2007 at 19:01
Did you use water in the battery or red bull?? with the motor stopped, does it read 14ish? if so, alt reg is had it...
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Follow Up By: tvl - Saturday, Jun 16, 2007 at 19:06

Saturday, Jun 16, 2007 at 19:06
reading 25.7 sitting still,,motor off....now ime worried
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Saturday, Jun 16, 2007 at 19:08

Saturday, Jun 16, 2007 at 19:08
I'd start by doing a check of the gauge........ Is it one of those Jaycar units? They are not top quality.......
I would think that battery would have just about exploded if it was @ 27v!!!
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Follow Up By: tvl - Saturday, Jun 16, 2007 at 19:11

Saturday, Jun 16, 2007 at 19:11
jaycar?yes! I was thinking about getting out of there after it lept above 25 volts, i was thinking to myslef (somethings gotta blow).
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Reply By: Mike Harding - Saturday, Jun 16, 2007 at 19:36

Saturday, Jun 16, 2007 at 19:36
This is a common problem with a very simple answer: the solution is to gently remove you digital voltage thingie and beat it to death with a large rock - seriously! :)

Following that, buy a $50 digital multimeter and see what it says.

Do not trust measurement instruments without due consideration.

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Follow Up By: tvl - Saturday, Jun 16, 2007 at 19:43

Saturday, Jun 16, 2007 at 19:43
thanks for that mike,i never thought of doing that!!beating it to death i mean.
lol ,i will do that in the morning,and thanks for advice....................
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Reply By: KiwiAngler - Saturday, Jun 16, 2007 at 19:50

Saturday, Jun 16, 2007 at 19:50
slightly off topic ( and not the cause of your 27v) but I note that you say you '...topped it up with ordinary water"
Most battery manufacturers would say that you should only use de-ionised water to top up as the dissolved minerals and trace chlorine found in most tap waters is deterimental to the battery life.
NOTE: I am not a battery expert :-)
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Follow Up By: Member - DOZER- Saturday, Jun 16, 2007 at 20:08

Saturday, Jun 16, 2007 at 20:08
maybe you used red bull....
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Reply By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Saturday, Jun 16, 2007 at 20:05

Saturday, Jun 16, 2007 at 20:05
Hi,
Mike's answer fairly well covers the technical aspects of dealing with errant test equipment, I won't repeat it here.

But another good test is, does the interior light still work? At 27 volts a small festoon lamp would almost certainly burst. If the light works then your battery voltage is normal.

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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Saturday, Jun 16, 2007 at 20:10

Saturday, Jun 16, 2007 at 20:10
Im guessing one of the batteries has a bad earth, and the reading is actually coming from both batteries in series...13.8 plus 13.8 = 27.6
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Reply By: Eric Experience - Saturday, Jun 16, 2007 at 23:14

Saturday, Jun 16, 2007 at 23:14
Tvl.
If the connections to your battery got acid on then you could have a high resistance to earth from the meter, but that is probably the minor problem, if the water you used had fluoride in it you battery is doomed. good luck Eric.
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Reply By: Member - Mark E (VIC) - Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 08:12

Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 08:12
tvl,

I used to use those types of volt gauges, but as mentioned above, they are poor quality. Mine were consistently about 0.5v out and would occasionally do what you see.

Chuck them in the bin and spend the $$ on something decent. That being said, there is a bit of a gap in the market for good quality digital volt gauges, which are simple and son't cost the earth. I did a bit of searching, but couldn't find much in Australia under about $150.

Anybody have any suggestions on how to 'simply' monitor the voltages on 2 batteries - aux and main without spending a fortune?

Cheers,

Mark

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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 09:48

Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 09:48
Yep, I also gave up on the Jaycar meter - it overread heaps when it got warm.
I've gone to what the model plane guys use:


It measures volts to two decimal points, and also measures current up to 120amps, and measures watts and calculates amp hours as well.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark E (VIC) - Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 17:55

Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 17:55
Phil,

Thanks for the suggestion. How do you use this to monitor multiple batteries. I guess it would be fairly simple to wire a 2 position switch?

Cheers,

Mark
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 22:07

Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 22:07
hmmmdont think I would be running 120a thru those small wires but it looks the goods for voltage

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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 19:09

Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 19:09
Mark,
A two position switch is best - one of those ON-OFF-ON switches allows you to turn off the meter. But I measured the power consumption of the meter, and its only a trickle at 8mA, so you could leave it connected all the time.

Bonz,
I agree with you about the size of the wires. But I guess its a short length, and they are usually measure the big currents for a short time. I've measured up to 40amps.
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Reply By: Nick R (VIC) - Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 10:11

Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 10:11
I had a similar experience on an irrigation pump motor, it was in our case a regulator on the alternator.......
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Reply By: Flux - Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 10:25

Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 10:25
I also have a few of these jaycar units.

The thing is not stuffed. This unit can run on 12v or 24v systems.

For some reason, they occasionally will go into 24v mode if the power has been interupted (eg dirty terminal loosing connection for a split second). They then seem to show double the 12v voltage measured.

Disconnect the power to it, and reconnect it and it will go back into 12v mode.
Try more than once if it doesnt work the first time.

Flux.
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