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Submitted: Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 20:03
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Hi all.. I know this is a little off topic but I am in the market for a new laptop and all the computer jargon is a bit off putting.
What is the opinions of others on the best system for a laptop??
AMD Turion 64 x 2
AMD Athlon Core Duo
Intel Core 2 Duo
AMD Sempron

The Intel Core 2 Duo seems to be the most popular and I am guessing they are rated on an affordablility scale. I also assume the Sempron is the bottom of the scale and the Intel Core 2 Duo is towards the top.

One further question is how do the AMD's rate?

Thanks from a non computer geek
120scruiser
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Reply By: Member - Stephen F (VIC) - Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 20:47

Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 20:47
Howd'y Cruiser,
Just a little information that you might want to know, Mr Bill Gates has his new windows operating software on the market Vista if you run this software your computer will need a minimum of 1 gig ram, try and get a lappy that has xp as is operating system.
In relation to the AMD processor i believe it uses more power and gets hotter than the Intel varieties.
If i wanted a good computer but not over the top i would by a Toshiba, Intel duel core 2Ghz and a 4 MB cache, 1 gig of ram and running XP.
And try and get a 5 year warranty should cost about $200

Hope this helps
Stephen
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Follow Up By: Member - 120scruiser (NSW) - Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 20:52

Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 20:52
Thanks for your reply Stephen
I currently have an HP Pavilion with a pentium 4 processor running 758 gig of ram and XP. I do own XP on CD so thats not a problem. My system is playing funny buggers at the moment. No history is showing in my explorer and when I shut down outlook express it won't open again. I have to reboot my computer and then you only get one go. When you shut it down it comes up with a not responding message. I have had it to the computer shop and they have reinstalled windows, still the same.
I might have to do a complete format of my hard drive and start again. A pain in the butt. OH well.
Thanks again
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Follow Up By: Moser - Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 09:17

Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 09:17
Good luck on trying to use your xp CD on another machine, Mr Gates has just about put a stop to that, One XP per machine

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Reply By: Blaze - Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 21:01

Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 21:01
Hi Cruiser, Adding on to what Stephen said I would currently stick with XP, but make sure the laptop you buy runs XP. If you buy a Vista machine it may not be able to run your copy of XP, as some come with onboard hardware that only have Vista drivers..

I agree also that the Toshi is probably the go, for a new one at present. Just make sure it has everything you need.
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Reply By: Member - Stephen F (VIC) - Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 21:11

Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 21:11
Have fun with that mate just did it to my PC just went and brought some big 8 gig thum drives $85 each. And a few hours later running super fast.

Cheers Stephen
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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 22:20

Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 22:20
The AMD Athlon core due is an affordable alternative to the Intel Core 2 duo, the Turion is a tad pricier but designed for lower power usage. In my opinion the AMD's are every bit as good as the Intel chips

I have Vista on my new HP lappy and its teething problems are annoying but its passable
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Follow Up By: Red Frog - Vic - Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 23:06

Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 23:06
Damn fine navigation setup in that there Ford Bonz :)
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Jun 19, 2007 at 18:59

Tuesday, Jun 19, 2007 at 18:59
I like to know where I am going hahahaha
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Reply By: obee - Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 22:34

Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 22:34
Whatever it is make sure the processor is mobile like pentium m or centrino or similar. Mate bought an acer few years ago and it runs a regular processor that turns the machine into a room heater. Laptop means portable and battery (otherwise u would would be buying a desktop) and a battery management system is critical.

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Follow Up By: howie - Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 21:33

Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 21:33
exactly what i was going to say.
no reputable pc dealer should offer you a non "mobile" processor in a laptop.
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Reply By: whyallacookie - Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 14:02

Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 14:02
I currently use an Acer Aspire 3620.

Gets used everday (almost 12months old now) and the only thing I have done is add extra memory.

It is probably worth talking to a couple of local computer places (If you have them). Some laptops are easier to upgrade/replace things like hard drives in than others (and also the part $$$)

Prior to this I had a compaq for 2 years and had no issues with them either.

Both are used about 6 days a week plus most nights.

I'd agree too with try and stick with XP system. And look for one with wireless networking built in to, saves carrying a card and you ca check email etc at special places (including Some Macca's). You can often find a wireless "private" network that is not secured to log in and check your mail whilst travelling too.

Both of these laptops have been bought for aroun $1000 on special
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Reply By: Member - 120scruiser (NSW) - Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 17:19

Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 17:19
Thanks all.
I might keep this one and have it upgraded.
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Reply By: Mainey (WA) - Wednesday, Jun 20, 2007 at 01:50

Wednesday, Jun 20, 2007 at 01:50
I asked a young geek friend of my daughter who uses a Sony Valero (spelling) but they were about $4,200 for the specs he advised me to get, he said DELL would build what I needed at about ½ the price.

Initially when I got it, it run slow, so the operating system, XP Media Player, which I understand is XP professional with Media Player intergrated, was reinstalled without some of the Dell software that was slowing it down, it runs soooo fast now.

I ended up with Intel Core Duo 2 Central Processing Unit, T7200 @ 2.00GHz with 2GB 533 MHz DDR2 SDRAM, Intel 945 chipset, Intel media graphics accelerator 950, Bluetooth, WiFi, usb wireless mouse so I can play games at a distance when camped, DVD+/-RW Dual layer drive, 1680 x 1050 pixel sxga + tft 15.4inch widescreen, integrated stereo sound and McAfee, can watch TV on it and send emails in the bush too.
I thought it was good value @ $2,220 with a photo printer/copier included, and yeah I have no real idea what the above numbers really mean, I copied it from the system, cause it won’t run on 12v lol, will run off it's own battery and runs or recharges from the inverter without hassles.

Hint…
Look at 2gig Ram with a super fast Intell processor and for the best quality screen you can afford, the more screen pixels available will make pictures, tv & dvd's look so realistic compared to the usual 1200 x 900 pixel screens on some budget price units.
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Reply By: milzi - Wednesday, Jun 20, 2007 at 13:24

Wednesday, Jun 20, 2007 at 13:24
Transfering windows Using your Xp cd on a new machine is no problem, just following the on screen instructions, the free call takes all of 5 mins!
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Reply By: Mainey (WA) - Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 19:15

Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 19:15
Intel Core 2 Duo ~8300MB/s @ 2.67GHz
is fastest, as can be read in the following tests.

AMD Athlon X2 / Opteron DC ~2950MB/s @ 2.6GHz ~98ns @ 2.6GHz The integrated memory controller and SRI/Crossbar interface allows it very low inter-core latency however, the lack of shared L2 caches means the inter-core bandwidth cannot match. However, passing data between threads is faster than a comparative SMP system.

AMD Phenom X4 (Barcelona) n/a n/a With a shared L3 cache, inter-core bandwidth for small/medium transfers will be high with low latency while larger transfers will still benefit from the built-in memory controllers. However, raw memory bandwidth will not outperform current 2-way Quad FX / Dual-Core Opteron systems.

Intel Core Duo ~4000MB/s @ 1.67GHz ~160ns @ 1.67GHz The first design with shared L2 cache, the results are very good though the L2 cache is smaller and the bandwidth lower than newer Core 2 processors.

Intel Core 2 Duo ~8300MB/s @ 2.67GHz ~90ns @ 2.67GHz You can clearly see its dual core performance is exemplary due to its large, shared L2 cache. Except the very largest combination, all others just use the shared L2 cache and don't need to touch main memory. Passing data between threads is extremely fast, latency is very low, with almost no penalty unlike traditional SMP systems!

Intel Pentium D ~700MB/s @ 2.67GHz ~265ns @ 2.67GHz The first dual-core design with 2 processor dies on 1 package. Transfering data between threads through the shared FSB to/from main memory is very slow, completly dependent on memory bandwidth. Large L2 caches do not help here except to buffer any common data that does not change thus freeing the FSB for other transfers. This is how traditional SMP systems behaved so it is not worse than a dual CPU but not better either.

Mainey...
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