Adhesive velcro or Double sided tape

Submitted: Tuesday, Jun 19, 2007 at 07:50
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Which is the strongest of the two for affixing say a reverse camera, to dash of a vehicle?

Also is an industrial type available?

Pedro
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Tuesday, Jun 19, 2007 at 08:02

Tuesday, Jun 19, 2007 at 08:02
The problem is more in the base glue on either Peter, and there are a wide range of grades available.

In the general grades you see around double sided tape is stronger provided it is applied correctly - which means applying pressure for some 10 seconds as its pressure sensitive.

However another catch is that common velcro type tapes loose adhesion in the peak temperatures found on a dash.
I mount my GPS on dash this way cause its constantly being removed for downloading.
The trick is to mount it on a relatively horizontal surface, so that it does move during the inevitable times when the glue softens.

Purpose made tapes exist with unbeliveable adhesion , they are used where I am to attached windows to products for life.

Robin Miller

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Reply By: Skippy In The GU - Tuesday, Jun 19, 2007 at 08:09

Tuesday, Jun 19, 2007 at 08:09
Hi Peter, there is a plastic type Velcro on the market which is fantastic, problem is finding who stocks it.
A friends uses it to hold down his 8" monitor on the dash.
I take it your going to face the camera forward and record your driving ? :-)
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Follow Up By: mudman - Tuesday, Jun 19, 2007 at 08:54

Tuesday, Jun 19, 2007 at 08:54
The Velcro product is called Dual Lock and can be purchased by the metre from Australian Visual Supplies in most states. Velcro products are great if you are going to remove the object regularly but add about 3mm thickness which can cause other problems, there are many special adhesive tapes made for all kinds of applications but are not available at Bunnings, your local sign writer or digital printer may be able to help you.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Jun 19, 2007 at 08:19

Tuesday, Jun 19, 2007 at 08:19
I use heaps of velcro, and a bit of double-sided tape. Only use the genuine stuff. Sometimes if the sticky stuff is not strong enough, you need to use contact adhesive to make it stick.

Theres heaps of crap double-sided tape out there. The best stuff I've used came from a hobby shop.

But to stick anything onto the dash is next to impossible. The vinyl dash surface usually won't take it well. And the heat will lift it anyway. So I'd screw things down to the dash (can cover the holes with a dashmat anyway). Everything else in my cab (inverter, voltmeter, GPS, computer, pens, memory stick, rechargers etc etc) get a piece of hook velcro onto the back, so they can easily stick to carpet.
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter R (QLD) - Tuesday, Jun 19, 2007 at 08:55

Tuesday, Jun 19, 2007 at 08:55
Thanks for the quick responses Robin ,Skippy and Phil.

Skippy I omitted the word "monitor" but hey with your suggestion I might need to get another camera !!

Pedro
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Reply By: Member - Craig D (SA) - Tuesday, Jun 19, 2007 at 09:03

Tuesday, Jun 19, 2007 at 09:03
Can't beat 3M Dual Lock 25mm. In all my years of using this stuff I have never had it let go (including dash mounted items). Removes well, too, with no residue left behind. This stuff is not cheap, but well worth it (no screw holes!).

Cheers,
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Follow Up By: Skippy In The GU - Tuesday, Jun 19, 2007 at 21:56

Tuesday, Jun 19, 2007 at 21:56
I was told it's $90 a metre, I only want 2 lots of 30 mm.
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Reply By: Sacred Cow - Tuesday, Jun 19, 2007 at 10:51

Tuesday, Jun 19, 2007 at 10:51
Peter,

Re your previous query.

I mounted the camera between the number plate light unit and the number plate, off the axis of the lighting though. Because the spare wheel is on the back of the Prado it is not possible in my opinion to get the perfect location if you want to see the towbar which was essential for me.

Re monitor - another problem. My wife is vertically challenged and if I placed the monitor on the dash it would significantly and dangerously affect the forward vision of the driver. The dash on the prado is particularly high and I do not believe it lends itself to mounting the monitor on it.

In the end I mounted the monitor on the gear stick console against the ashtray with it angled upwards. It is not the perfect position as you have to look downwards every now and then to look at the monitor when reversing. Another possibility is off the ceiling in the top right hand corner.

By the way the Waeco monitor comes with good sticky stuff underneath it. The base has slots in it and the fingers can be bent to fit the contours of the mounting surface.

If you still want photos let me know and I'll see what I can do if I can get my Prado out of my wife's hands.

Regards
SC
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter R (QLD) - Tuesday, Jun 19, 2007 at 12:48

Tuesday, Jun 19, 2007 at 12:48
Thanks to all.
Have got hold of some 3M Dual Lock and that looks like it will do the job of affixing without screw holes.

Sc, Photo of back would be good.

Hopefully a photo of a unit installed on Prado (as shown on Pradpoint) will appear below



Pedro
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Follow Up By: Member - Glenn D (NSW) - Tuesday, Jun 19, 2007 at 22:26

Tuesday, Jun 19, 2007 at 22:26
Hows it going Pedro ,

Is this a photo of your install ,

Isnt this item meant to be fitted over your rear view mirror .

Looks like heaps more work to make it work like this.

Glenn.
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter R (QLD) - Wednesday, Jun 20, 2007 at 06:41

Wednesday, Jun 20, 2007 at 06:41
Glenn,
Not mine just a photo of an install.

The monitor was meant to clip over mirror but was apparently too heavy and kept falling forwards so it was resited .

Pedro
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Follow Up By: Member - Glenn D (NSW) - Wednesday, Jun 20, 2007 at 10:28

Wednesday, Jun 20, 2007 at 10:28
Didnt read that too well , LOL

Bit of a shame cause it looks heaps neater mounted to the mirror.

Glenn.
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Tuesday, Jun 19, 2007 at 14:16

Tuesday, Jun 19, 2007 at 14:16
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Reply By: Kumunara (NT) - Tuesday, Jun 19, 2007 at 20:41

Tuesday, Jun 19, 2007 at 20:41
Peter R

I don't use either. I use silicon. I have a 7" monitor which I use on my dash and it is fastened with silicon. When I eventually trade in the vehicle I will remove the monitor and then remove the silicon by rubbing it. There will be no damage to the dash and it is removed easily.

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Follow Up By: Member - Peter R (QLD) - Tuesday, Jun 19, 2007 at 21:53

Tuesday, Jun 19, 2007 at 21:53
Thanks Kumunara,
I hadn't thought of silicon , and someone on another forum suggested "outdoor velcro" so might have to do a rethink.

You have all been very helpful

Pedro

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Reply By: Member - Peter R (QLD) - Wednesday, Jun 20, 2007 at 06:43

Wednesday, Jun 20, 2007 at 06:43
Skippy in the GU,
I paid $15 for a metre at the Gold Coast, and 1 m was minimum.
Probably $90 for a roll.

Pedro
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Reply By: bazzaboy - Wednesday, Jun 27, 2007 at 13:30

Wednesday, Jun 27, 2007 at 13:30
Hi Pedro, trust me, forget about velcro on reversing camera, you will loose it either from vibrating loose or someone stealing it, if its on the back, screw the damn thing down like you have to do with everything else, Baz.
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