New Prado - Recovery Hooks
Submitted: Saturday, Jun 23, 2007 at 19:00
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Willykj
Hi,
Am taking delivery of a new Prado GXL next Friday. One thing I didn't ask about or check was whether the Prado comes with rated recovery points.
Can anyone enlighten me - I know that many 4WD's only come with tie down hooks.
My Prado will have the Toyota Bull Bar.
Thanks
Willy
Reply By: kimprado - Saturday, Jun 23, 2007 at 19:18
Saturday, Jun 23, 2007 at 19:18
Willy
TJM sell "Outback Ideas" recovery points for the Prado (front). My last Prado was used as a test bed in the development of the product.
The car comes with shipping tie down points and should not be used for recovery under any circumstances
If it's not too late, I'd strongly advise you to cancel the Toyota Bull Bar and have a look at ARB steel bars.
Regards
Kim
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Jun 23, 2007 at 19:21
Saturday, Jun 23, 2007 at 19:21
The 120series comes with two front towing loops which are welded to the chassis. So they require a 3.25T shackle to attach anything. The suitability of these for snatching can be hotly debated. In my opinion, they are adequate provided an equaliser strap is used. An equaliser strap halves the load on each point and should prevent a runaway shackle.
But you can buy aftermarket recovery points for the 120series. These bolt to the chassis on each side, but still require a shackle, so IMO still require an equaliser strap.
You will get other opinions, but with 4wds, the manufacturers will only rate their hooks and tow points for TOWING. Thats their call. Its up to you to make sure snatch recovery is safe.
Rear recovery - simply use the square receiver on the towbar. My preference is to use only the pin to retain the strap and keep it simple. If anyone were to bend the HT pin, they are pulling too hard.
Cheers
Phil
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Follow Up By: MarkMc. - Saturday, Jun 23, 2007 at 22:01
Saturday, Jun 23, 2007 at 22:01
I've got the prado Aug06. Toyota were pretty careful about there wording when I asked if I could use the tie down points to snatch the car out of sand. They do look a bit light on compared to the ones I'm used to on my old hi-lux. Saying that however I've used them three times in soft sand, once in the Simpson, once on Teewah and the last time at Ngala rocks on Fraser. There has been no distortion whatsoever of the towing points and I was
well and truly stuck at Ngala (coming back though :) If I was going to take it seriously offroad ie. deepwater/ heavy muddy conditions I would definitely be installing the aftermaket tow points. But I'm not planning to do that with this beauty.
cheers,
Mark Mc.
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Reply By: lc_120man - Saturday, Jun 23, 2007 at 22:36
Saturday, Jun 23, 2007 at 22:36
Toyota has changed the original front recovery loops to a more robust version from 2005 models onwards, so using them with equaliser strap should be OK.
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Reply By: Pilbara2 - Sunday, Jun 24, 2007 at 00:32
Sunday, Jun 24, 2007 at 00:32
Willykj,
I've got a 2006 120 series and the "tie down points" are superb for snatches and recoveries. I recently pulled a 100series out of a bogged situation while he was rim deep in
water and towing a big trailer. Ribbed my mate about it for ages. The tie down i used did not flinch/bend/distort at all and i had 2 hard snatches to get him out of the chit. Work for me so i won't bother buying the hooks.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Jun 24, 2007 at 12:22
Sunday, Jun 24, 2007 at 12:22
Were you driving in reverse to snatch him?
If so, its something I avoid if at all possible. The toyota diffs can easily bust during reverse snatches because of the cut on the teeth. Secondly, if the recovery point breaks on the other vehicle, it comes through your front windscreen.
Its still worth using an equaliser strap - halves the load on the points, prevents chassis twist, and should a recovery
point break, then the other side will retain the shackle. Been enough people killed and badly injured every year in Australia from flying recovery points.
Cheers
phil
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Follow Up By: Pilbara2 - Sunday, Jun 24, 2007 at 23:43
Sunday, Jun 24, 2007 at 23:43
Phil G,
I was not snatching in reverse, i managed to get around him and snatch him forward. Both pulls moved the poor little Prado about 2 foot to the right which i could have done without, but i have since looked into an equaliser for between the 2 loops, any suggestions as to what to use? I can get my hands on 8 or 10 Ton soft slings which i think will do the job?
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Jun 25, 2007 at 08:36
Monday, Jun 25, 2007 at 08:36
An equaliser strap is a tree trunk protector with mild reinforcement in the middle to protect it where it goes thru
the loop of the snatch strap. It needs to be at least 3 metres long, so to minimise the angle.
I have a Terrain Tamer 6000kg one. Get it from any Don Kyatt outlet.
Or theres also one listed on Ebay
Your slings sound like they'd be up to the job.
Cheers
phil
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