Waeco CF - 80 Fridge

Submitted: Wednesday, Jul 04, 2007 at 16:47
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My brother-in-law uses a Waeco CF 80 fridge, Vehicle is Landcruiser with twin batteries (both new, and one a deep cycle) The red low power light on the fridge comes on after about 8 to 10 hours of the vehicle being stopped. ( Over night stop). Day /night temp is average. 23 deg day and about 16 of a night.. By morning temp loss in fridge is dramatic. Any suggestion as to why this happens is appreciated and how to rectify. Have even tried a 12volt to 24volt inverter, but still has the problem.
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Reply By: Andrew from Vivid Adventures - Wednesday, Jul 04, 2007 at 16:51

Wednesday, Jul 04, 2007 at 16:51
cabling is the usual issue.
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Follow Up By: Andrew from Vivid Adventures - Wednesday, Jul 04, 2007 at 16:52

Wednesday, Jul 04, 2007 at 16:52
Sorry - I should have been a little less obtuse ;-)

The usual issue is that people have cables of too small diameter to carry sufficient current and without voltage drop.

6B&S usually is required, presuming the fridge is in the back of the cruiser.
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Reply By: Kev M (The Queenslander) - Wednesday, Jul 04, 2007 at 16:51

Wednesday, Jul 04, 2007 at 16:51
What is the wiring like from the battery to the outlet for the fridge. It may be causing voltage drop.

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Reply By: Derek from Affordable Batteries & Radiators - Wednesday, Jul 04, 2007 at 17:17

Wednesday, Jul 04, 2007 at 17:17
2 possible problems.

Wiring is too light or low voltage cut out is set too high.

We need to know battery size and type and also the volatge on the battery when the light is flashing.
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Follow Up By: Derek from Affordable Batteries & Radiators - Wednesday, Jul 04, 2007 at 17:19

Wednesday, Jul 04, 2007 at 17:19
Forgot to mention that the plug connection is very important. If possible replace it with an Anderson plug.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mick T (QLD) - Wednesday, Jul 04, 2007 at 17:33

Wednesday, Jul 04, 2007 at 17:33
agree with you there Derek..I have the same fridge in my 80 series . the plug on the fridge is a twin fitting plug( cigarette lighter fitting then remove red end and fits into helle style plug) found when i first bought it had the same problem even with the waeco fitting in the back. have since only used it in the hella type fitting and had no dramas

hope this makes sense and helps to sort out the issue

cheers
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Reply By: Grungle - Wednesday, Jul 04, 2007 at 18:41

Wednesday, Jul 04, 2007 at 18:41
Is the battery flat in the morning? If so is the 'Emergency' switch of the fridge On? This will force the compressor to run continuously regardless of voltage.

Secondly check the 'Economy - Normal - High' switch. Mine is in the 'Normal' position. Any other position will determine at what voltage the fridge will cutout at and stay off (over discharge protection). If in the 'High' position then the fridge will cutout at a voltage of around 12.5 volts (don't have my manual handy so cannot confirm exactly).

Apart from those 2 things, as the others have said above.

Regards
David
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Follow Up By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Wednesday, Jul 04, 2007 at 21:12

Wednesday, Jul 04, 2007 at 21:12
Gday David'and Bomba

I will gladly stand corrected, but I don't think the voltage cutout is adjustable on the 80 litre, but the economy/normal/high adjusts the compressor speed (varified on mine with ear against fridge), with the turbo setting higher again. The waeco has been a great unit for me, but the manual is woeful. It doesn't mention, for example, that if the red light constantly flashes, its low battery, if it flashes 3 times, pauses, then repeats, it has had an interuption to the power supply,and the comprossor won't kick in untill the pressure drops a bit. (same as an air con that is turned off and on, it comes good after a few minutes)

I think they draw 65 watts, a bit over 5 amps, so the battery should give it 10 hours at least even if it is running flat out. As others have said, checkthe wiring and battery voltages

Cheers Andrew

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Follow Up By: Grungle - Thursday, Jul 05, 2007 at 08:32

Thursday, Jul 05, 2007 at 08:32
Hi Andrew,

Just pulled the manual out to check. The switch is referred to as the 'battery protection voltage switch' in my manual. It is an old manual but came with the fridge when I bought it new back in 2002. There is a slight difference as to the markings on the switch but it shows a picture of the bottom switch/connection panel that is the same. The specs table states (alternate labling in brackets):

Cut-out V Cut-in V
Economy (low) - 10.4V 11.2V
Normal (medium) - 11.0V 12.0V
High (high) - 12.0V 12.9V

Admitedly I have not mucked around with the switch due to having a trouble free run with the fridge and no problems with flatening batteries. There is also a write up about the switch under 'Battery Operation'.

One thing I am impressed with is the fact that there is a graph in the manual that lists cable size in mm2 against distance which is great to see. For a 4m run it suggests 8mm2 and for a 6m run 10mm2.

Regards
David
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Follow Up By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Thursday, Jul 05, 2007 at 14:17

Thursday, Jul 05, 2007 at 14:17
Gday David

Sounds like yours may be different to mine - is yours the digital temp set and readout model, or the older dial type? May explain the difference. Also, when my low voltage light kicks in, it doesn't stop the fridge but alternates betweenn compressor and fan???

Cheers ANdrew
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Follow Up By: Grungle - Thursday, Jul 05, 2007 at 18:51

Thursday, Jul 05, 2007 at 18:51
Hi Andrew,

Mine is the older bar temp readout with the green LED's that indicate set temp. Still has the turbo button though. I think the digital temp indicator came out a year or 2 ago.

Regards
David
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Reply By: muckrunner - Thursday, Jul 05, 2007 at 13:20

Thursday, Jul 05, 2007 at 13:20
buy an engel fridge as they don have any problems i have had a waeco and will never go back to one as they stay cold enough and the have a poor desighn so brought a engel and have had it for years and its always been never missed a beat...
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Follow Up By: Pete and Lez S.A. - Thursday, Jul 05, 2007 at 19:13

Thursday, Jul 05, 2007 at 19:13
Do Engel make a 110lt car fridge?
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Reply By: muckrunner - Thursday, Jul 05, 2007 at 19:31

Thursday, Jul 05, 2007 at 19:31
enngel dont make a 110 llitre fridge they make a 80 litre but to me they look bigger than the waeco 110 litre and they stay colder longer i have a 60 litre engel and a 40 litre engle frezer and are bothe very good excellent and keep cold longer and frozen for longer especially if you dry vac your frozen gear stays frozen for agesand dosnt miss a beat.

I have droped my smaller one and didnt even scratch it as of my waeco one was a 80 litre and always kept my frozen stuff cold not frozen even after i spoke to the company they though it might have been a dud one and still reconmend the engel as you get what you pay for....
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