beware of this man.

$20 isn't bad, but $1000 is a bit steep

Yeah,, i have heard of that one.

with the rego number

Well the cops are busy rounding up every Indian Doctor they can find at the moment....The Rego number could be ACT but the N does not fit.... The Cops should with 6 strokes on the keyboard be able to find the registered owner, unless of course this despotic duo don't own the bus or the plates are stolen.

We do have a system of sorts.... Uses the heavy vehicle tracking cameras but can if a specific vehicle eg, a blue leyland bus, be used to track it's whereabouts. Of course the vehicle has to pass thru a camera station or heavy vehicle checking station before it's location can be logged...

Nifti, while I agree with your sentiments it's obvious that these people have been frustrated by the lack of help from the Police. Yes it's sad to have to go public but at times it's one of those things you have to do to get some action. Ok say this is some sort of malicious joke, or the alleged perpetrators have actually put a cheque in the mail and Australia post is at fault? This would appear to be about the only recourse these people have, maybe even if constable plod reads this and thinks 'I can fix this... why wasn't I told" then that is a good result. If these people can prove their innocence let them be found and prove it.
The author you state has the privelige of anonimity, this is only temporary, if the author needs finding believe me he/she can be found as I discovered recently when I was being harrassed by offensive email. The problem we all face is the lack of interest on the part of the authorities unless you can cajol or embarass them into action.

I agree totally, this is an unproven allegation and the posting of a rego number, I would "stongly" suggest, breaches most states privacy act's for starters. Additionally from my legal experience, you could find yourself subject to defamation if the person described can legaly argue his intent to return all monies. My suggestion, the police have the rego number and vehicle description, delete the rego of the alleged person(s) vehicle from your post. Sure I agree, describe the incident and a general location of the alleged office, a desciption of the alleged offender(s) and leave it that.

Macca

Yeah dont persecute the thieves in this world, I mean where would we be with out them?

Blessed be the law breakers.

Monty Python knows all,

Geoff

I tend to agree also Mark/Macca,
posting the rego is a little risky. We dont seem to have been told when this person had agreed to pay this money back or under what particular circumstances, its all open to interpretation and he may have a different view or recollection of it?

It can take quite a while to sort out a stolen ID?

Sorry, but I think you "bleeding heart" types need to get a grip!!! This bloke has taken advantage of the good-nature of these lovely folk. Sure, there is a remote possibility that he/they may simply have forgotten about the $1,000- they owe, or the ID situation may not yet be resolved.

But hang on a minute..............put yourself in their (the couple in the Leyland bus) shoes for a minute. If YOU suffered the alleged misfortune that they did, AND you had the audacity in desperation of contacting aquaintances to ask for a lazy kay as a loan AND you were fair-dinkum about paying it back................wouldn't you be contacting these nice people to let them know that there has been some sort of "snafu" and that they would have to wait a bit longer for the dosh to be repaid? I know I would (and I'm sure you and every other EO member would too).

No, in this case, I think it is quite in order to post-up the rego number and names of these 2 "robbers"......Okay, okay, if they are NOT robbers, then by putting this post up on here there may be a positive outcome. EG: if I were to see that Leyland bus around here (Kadina SA), I would sidle-up to the occupants and strike up a conversation with them. I would enquire of their names and whether they'd like a loan of any money (assuming they look like they're doing it tough). If they said "yes", I would ask them to sit tight whilst I went to work (ie the bank) to get them some cash. I would get the coppers (I have a few mates locally who wear the uniform, and one who doesn't)......they could explain their desperate situation to these lovely blokes. If they are innocent, I'm sure the truth will emerge in short order and all will be well with the world once more.

Cheers

Roachie

Roachie, have to disagree. Much too easy to make an accusation in this sort of public forum with absolutely no basis in fact. I don't know Nifty from a bar of soap and I would suggest that at least 99% of people who visit ExplorOz wouldn't either. Although I have no reason to suspect his honesty or motives, I can't just condemn someone on his sayso. Very easy for me to claim that YOU have committed some dastardly offence. You would get on the forum and deny it but the damage will have been done - bleep sticks rightly or wrongly.

Let me give a hypothetical example. I'm a bit of a psychopath driving along the highway and you pull out in front of me. In my mind you've cut me off. I see your ExplorOz wheel cover and get your rego number. I log onto the website and tell everyone you interfered with my underage daughter. All of a sudden a well known and respected (and entertaining) member of the ExplorOz community stands accused in a public forum by a completely unknown individual. You will deny it. Some members won't believe the accusation. Some members are not sure and go with the accusation. Many unthinking visitors believe. Your reputation has been irrepairably damaged despite the whole thing being pure fabrication perpetrated maliciously because of the misinterpretation of a paranoid mind.

It happens mate. I'm not a bleeding heart - just the opposite but cannot support accusations made in this context when I don't know the facts.

Best wishes mate and no offence,

Mark

You have made a good point there Mark and I can see why you blokes have taken the stance you have.

I guess I live in a bit of a "fantasy" world whereby people wouldn't dream of doing something as low as falsely accusing somebody of some dastedly deed. I wouldn't do it to anybody else, so I guess I (wrongly) "expect" that nobody would do it to me.

What a shame the world has come to this level of demeanour.

Good onya mate and thanks for the analogy which has put me "in my place".....

All the best and hope I can buy you a beer one day.

Cheers

Roachie

Cheers Roachie,

Hopefully our paths will cross and I will be able to hold you to that beer. Just don't pull out in front of me on the highway.....OR ELSE.....hahahahaha (hollow, psychopathic laugh).

Best wishes mate,

Mark

That's sad, I hope I never become like that.

Gotta agree with you there Mike.......it really is a sad indication of what the country has come to when some of our EO folk think that way. I will still pull over if I see a stranded vehicle in need of assistance.

Mike & Roachie,
Sorry to reply this late but work has been in the way.
I can appreciate your sentiments and mine were exactly the same until the missus and myself missed out on possibly getting murdered back in 1976/7 in northern outback Qld. Was stationed at a place 52k east of Julia Ck and 48k west of Richmond.
We were on our fortnightly shopping trip to Richmond when we learned that an elderly couple had been found murdered beside the road just west of Richmond.
The next day i worked out from the time given by the police of the murder that we went past the spot 10mins after it happened and the old couple were in the grass beside the road.
Up until that time i would have stopped for anyone, antime but since then i am very cautious indeed. Whether i stopped now would depend on a fair few circumstances.
If you are just a normal sort of person and someone has evil intentions then you are dead set behind the eight ball in avoiding trouble.
Just an experience that changed my ideas.
Cheers,
Bros.

Look at the tragedy of the solicitor that was shot dead in Melbourne simply for coming to the assistance of someone in need.

I think most in here would find it hard not too help someone in need, but the cost of doing so these days can be high......in this case they only lost a grand...the Melbourne family have lost a father and husband...I can understand people thinking twice about helping after that incident.

We must, each, follow our conscience for we will surely be answerable to it.

Most States have enacted legislation to cover this species of 'theft' - for example: "Obtaining a pecuniary advantage by deception" because you're correct - the elements of theft (or larceny) are difficult to prove in such circumstances as are described in this case.

Happy days

Geo

peter these werent unknokn strangers they had known mum and dad for over a year and had been "freinds" with them they left a vechile at my parents which is why they lent the money thinking of course they would be back because we have their car here.

nifty-d
Please be assured I'm not doubting your post. It's just going to be very difficult to get assistance from the police because in their view there may not have been an actual crime committed. Your parents loaned the money in good faith. Technically it wasn't stolen, they handed it over willingly in the mistaken belief it would be repaid. The other persons involved will probably claim your parents 'gave' them the money (or even worse deny that it even happened). It would come down to your parents word against the other persons. It could go to court but at what further expense? Hopefully your parents will recover their money. Good luck with it
Peter

Okay Nifty,

If your folks have their car "as security", then that tends to change the situation a bit. My suggestion would be for you/them to disable the vehicle (distibutor cap removal or steering lock etc), to help avoid them coming back in the dead of night to "steal" their own car. This assumes the car is worth more than $1,000- (to make it worth their while to actually return for it).

Although your parents have no "legal" right to the vehicle, they do have the benefit of "possession is 9/10ths of the law" adage on their side.;-))

I wasnt make excuses for them,they deserve to be caught up with.
I can just see my elderly parents helping out someone like these so I may print off a sheet and show them;)