70 Series Land Cruiser V8 Diesel
Submitted: Sunday, Jul 08, 2007 at 23:15
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Member - Robbie S (SA)
We have been considering purchasing a new 70 series GXL wagon with the new V8 diesel motor, just wondering if any one has a report good or bad on this new release, if so do they deliver the 11.5lts per 100kls as the write ups say??. I would appreciate any feed back. Cheers Robbie
Reply By: Gone Bush (WA) - Sunday, Jul 08, 2007 at 23:25
Sunday, Jul 08, 2007 at 23:25
My cab chassis is only a few weeks old and I have only used about 180 litres so far but I am getting 24mpg which is so close to 11.5l/100k it doesn't matter.
Be aware the wagon only comes with a single 90 litre
tank. The cab chassis and troopy come with 2 X 90 litre tanks.
Power is beaut (compared to my outgoing 80 series TD).
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Follow Up By: Member - Robbie S (SA) - Monday, Jul 09, 2007 at 08:06
Monday, Jul 09, 2007 at 08:06
Thanks for the info, there is an after market replacement
tank of 155 lts {$1090+300fitting} . Can you tell me, how many revs at 110ks does the motor do??
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Monday, Jul 09, 2007 at 09:34
Monday, Jul 09, 2007 at 09:34
Robbie,
at 100ks it's spinning at 2100rpm. My 80 sat on 2600rpm for the same speed.
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Reply By: Member - The Crow (QLD) - Monday, Jul 09, 2007 at 07:46
Monday, Jul 09, 2007 at 07:46
Be prepared for a wait if you order one. We ordered a white GXL 76 series with difflocks early in April and still don't know when we are going to get it. On the contract estimated delivery was 30th May. Have been told Toyota are having trouble getting fuel pumps for the motor.
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Follow Up By: Member - Robbie S (SA) - Monday, Jul 09, 2007 at 08:17
Monday, Jul 09, 2007 at 08:17
Hi Crow!! There is a silver one at our dealership and I think maybe getting a few Ks on the clock with demo's, white is our chosen colour but if the wait is that long may consider. We have a current GXL diesel, and am reluctant to take it to the real rough stuff as with isf there is limited clearance and the extra power would be great. Cheers.
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Reply By: Member - The Crow (QLD) - Monday, Jul 09, 2007 at 08:30
Monday, Jul 09, 2007 at 08:30
Hi Robbie, Do you know who make the long range
tank you are talking about?
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Follow Up By: Member - Robbie S (SA) - Monday, Jul 09, 2007 at 21:42
Monday, Jul 09, 2007 at 21:42
Hi Crow Armidale 4WD make the
tank www.armadale4wd.com.au 176lts. Cheers
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Follow Up By: Andrew from Vivid Adventures - Tuesday, Jul 10, 2007 at 22:57
Tuesday, Jul 10, 2007 at 22:57
Out of Town 4WD - the makers of the Longranger, have one built and fitted too.
They had the privilege of leading a few Toyota product promotion tag-a-long tours in the
Kimberley in April/May which required fitting out a dozen or so of these vehicles.
www.oot4wd.com.au/
Suggest you ask for Ric and tell him I sent you.
Cheers,
Andrew.
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Reply By: Crackles - Tuesday, Jul 10, 2007 at 22:37
Tuesday, Jul 10, 2007 at 22:37
Yes they can deliver 11.5 if driven steady but with all the power available some are getting closer to 14.
The new Cruiser does have a few issues of which some may become a problem depending on what you expect out of a car.
The front wheel track is 100mm wider than the rear, has very poor quality seats, only a lap
seat belt in the centre rear with leg room reduced (compared to 80), the altenator is mounted very low, has a very small luggage area (100mm narrower & 130mm shorter than an 80 series), no option of ABS or airbags, has a tacky centre console, only a 90L
tank, no electric mirrors & short rear leaf springs (70mm shorter than tray or troopy). The hand throttle has been removed as has been the option for a PTO & there has been no advertised beefing up of the weak diffs which when fitted with lockers have a sticker on the door warning not to engage them over 8kph What the ????
On the plus side it comes standard with a
snorkel, has excellent lights & an engine that pulls like a train.
IMHO this vehicle is not new, in fact the dash is out of an 84 tray, the rear half off a 70 series Prado built in the 90's, 90L fuel
tank capacity last seen in a 60 series, with safety features, seating & technology barely changed since the 80's. If you believe the motor is worth nearly $60K then it may be worth looking at otherwise something like a prado would be far better value for money.
Cheers Craig.........
HZJ105 Vic.
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Follow Up By: Member - Robbie S (SA) - Thursday, Jul 12, 2007 at 10:10
Thursday, Jul 12, 2007 at 10:10
Thank you for the details, like all new models it takes a while to sort out. By the looks this one is a mix of old & new, I will be keeping my GXL and may look at a 79RV instead. Cheers Rob
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Follow Up By: alnjan - Friday, Aug 03, 2007 at 19:07
Friday, Aug 03, 2007 at 19:07
Craig,
You speak with so much bitterness about the new 70 Series Cruisers you amaze me. It is clear from your raving and ranting you do not use your current 4wd in real 4wd situations, because if you did you would have a very differnt view on the 70 Series. The mere fact you want to do over 8km/h with the diffs locked absolute stuns me. If you can do over 8km/h you don't need your diffs locked!!!
The only 'complaint' I will agree with you is the price. But from your rantings you would also be one of those people that would not pay $60k+ and then take it off road.
Well my friend, that is what this vehicle is designed for. I don't care how old the body shape is and I am more than thankful Toyota has kept such a user friendly dash.
The only thing stopping me buying a new 79 Series is my repaying my current mortage. Come on lotto.
Alan
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Sunday, Aug 05, 2007 at 21:31
Sunday, Aug 05, 2007 at 21:31
Alan you have little idea & are an even worse judge of charactor. Check my sig, I drive a new RV 105 with $40K of assesories & have just returned from my 2nd hard snow trip up the High Country in as many weeks. You doubt my driving experience in real situations, I've done 9 simpson crossings including the Madigan last year. I had the money in the bank for the new Toyota but was very dissapointed with what they released. Robbie asked for good & bad reports of the 76 series of which I gave both after much research. Your reply gives neither.
User friendly dash............ NOT. Where are the cup holders anyway or don't real 4 wheel drivers drink?.......That's right they're hidden in the glovebox & some how you have to balance your drinks on the lid :-)
I owned a 75 Troopy back in 1990 with that almost identical dash, thing is in 17 years I've come to expect more for my money. Open your eyes Alan & step into the 21st century.
Cheers Craig...........................
PS: Feel free to correct any of my intrue obsevations or even add a few of your own
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Sunday, Aug 05, 2007 at 22:09
Sunday, Aug 05, 2007 at 22:09
these ae functional vehicles NOT RVs anyone that works in a veicle will tell you the 70 seies dash is superb as you can stash folders and maps et on them and the wont slide off everywhere like with a rendy rounded 100s dash.
Cup holders?? hate the damn things always bashing them when changing gears. Managed for years with the drnk between my legs.
However for a work vehicle those fat front panels look far softer than the old 70s wing gaurds which were damn tough and minimised soft panels to toghe bus
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Reply By: alnjan - Tuesday, Aug 07, 2007 at 20:18
Tuesday, Aug 07, 2007 at 20:18
Robbie,
What you have to remember with any of the 70 Series, either 76,78,79 Series they are a Commercial Vehicle. They are not a Car or an RV. Their spec levels can be described as basic. Some like that, some don't. That is a personal option. But like any vehicle the fuel economy depends on how the individual drives it. By all accounts the 11.5l/100kms is very achievable, while others do return high or poor economy runs, it depends on the individual, the load and what you are doing.
Read a report on another
forum of a 79 hire vehicle loaded up with three blokes, all their gear, fridges, two 44s of fuel, and all their survey work gear and 4000km return trip to the middle of nowhere. Fuel economy was shocking but as he said the trip up was a heavy load and 3/4 of the trip was done at 120km/h plus. While the economy was poor, the vehicle handled the load the job better then anything before and the company was so impressed they are getting a 79 for future jobs.
Like I said, it is an individual thing, a commercial vehicle that lets you set it up how you want it or maybe a you would prefer the latte set cup holding push button all bells and whistles 200 series with 195kw of power and 650Nm of torque with a claimed 11l/100kms. Just try and mount a UHF and
HF radio and a laptop in 200 or 100 and you will appreciate the old style dash of a new 70 Series.
Regards
Alan
P.S. If you get diff locks you will learn you do not need to go over 8km/h with them locked. They are only needed when traction is lost. If you are doing over 8km/h, then you have not lost traction. Its a simple equation.
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