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Submitted: Saturday, Jul 14, 2007 at 22:16
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Hi all, When we are travelling we will have no fixed abode so does it matter what state the car and caravan are registered in . NSW costly others nil. Thanks for any advice.
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Reply By: Shaker - Saturday, Jul 14, 2007 at 22:27

Saturday, Jul 14, 2007 at 22:27
Very grey area, be careful that you get professional advice because it could invalidate your third party insurance.

If your caravan exploded, or some other catastrophe ended your holiday prematurely .... where would you go??
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Saturday, Jul 14, 2007 at 23:15

Saturday, Jul 14, 2007 at 23:15
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Follow Up By: CLC50 - Sunday, Jul 15, 2007 at 07:06

Sunday, Jul 15, 2007 at 07:06
Doug
That's where all heading.or a big black box
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Reply By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Sunday, Jul 15, 2007 at 07:58

Sunday, Jul 15, 2007 at 07:58
I will watch the answers with interest also.

I have a vehicle that I am moving around Australia over several years and when not being used leave it in storage/parked for a few months at a time. I purchased in Melbourne but the vehicle was registered in WA. I considered changeing the rego to Vic but as I will probably sell the vehicle in WA in a few years time I decided to leave it registered there.

The WA vehicle registration people do need a WA mailing address but a friend or backpackers address was acceptable. They accepted all forms and bill payments by email and visa so no problems there. No roadworthy cert required but they do have sales tax :((
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Follow Up By: Russ n Sue - Sunday, Jul 15, 2007 at 09:34

Sunday, Jul 15, 2007 at 09:34
They have Stamp Duty, not sales tax. Public pressure to remove this scourge has seen it reduced on home loans and if this Government wants to get re-elected, they will most likely drop it on cars in the next year or so.

Annual certification is not required in WA - a big plus.

We are going to maintain WA registration for our vehicle/trailers/boat even though we won't be back for years. We use our Daughter's address for correspondence.

Cheers,

Russ.
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Follow Up By: DIO - Sunday, Jul 15, 2007 at 09:41

Sunday, Jul 15, 2007 at 09:41
Sales Tax - all states in Australia have that. Don't you mean Stamp Duty (on the transaction) - all states in Australia have that too!!
It's my understanding that ALL states require that vehicles be registered and Drivers Licences be issued in/for the state in which you reside. To the best of my knowledge, correct me if you know better, none of the states have managed to introduce legislation that specifically covers the very situation as mentioned. i.e. travelling around for an extended period with no fixed address. Why are people forced to make false declarations thus compromising themselves with the possibility of prosecution and cancellation of 3rd party insurance?
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Sunday, Jul 15, 2007 at 11:40

Sunday, Jul 15, 2007 at 11:40
Russ & DIO, Yes, you are of course right - it's stamp duty. Sorry about that.

When I downloaded vehicle ownership transfer forms from the WA website I could not see how any non-resident of WA could own a WA registered vehicle so I emailed the WA Dept for Planning and Infrastructure. I explained that I did not have an Australian issued drivers licence and as I was traveling I would not have a permanant residence. I also had no place in WA to "garage" the vehicle.
I include their reply below:

FROM: Call.Centre@dpi.wa.gov.au

Thank you for your email regarding the purchase of a WA registered vehicle.
To enable the vehicle to be transfered into your name you are required to supply a WA residential address. This can be a backpacker hostel, friend or relatives address.

When purchasing the vehicle you are required to complete a Change of Ownership form available from our website. When sending this form to Licensing please attache certified copies of your primary identification (drivers licence with photo, birth certificate, or passport).

These documents must be certified by a police officer, doctor, JP etc.
You will then be required to pay transfer and stamp duty fees as well as the vehicle registration when it becomes due.

Please ensure that when you are traveling around Australia that you keep your postal address updated with us so we can send any documentation to you.

If you have any further enquiries please reply to this email or visit our website www.dpi.wa.gov.au Alternatively you can contact our Customer Contact Centre on 13 11 56 or (08) 9427 6404 if interstate or overseas.

The above email reply was sent to me within a couple of days of my enquiry. Since then I have paid my accounts by visa over the telephone and have found them to be very helpful - no problems at all.
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Reply By: Ian from Thermoguard Instruments - Sunday, Jul 15, 2007 at 14:24

Sunday, Jul 15, 2007 at 14:24
Having been in this situation for the last five years (see here for the long version!), we understand your dilemma very well.

Govt departments and, especially insurance companies, just cannot cope with people of no fixed abode - that is, no "residential" street address. So, you are forced to tell little fibs if you want to keep a driver's licence and keep your vehicles registered and insured.

Do you have any address where you are likely to spend at least a couple of weeks each year? For us, that's been my sister's place in FNQ, so as far as the govt is concerned, we 'reside' there. We now own a rural block in SE Qld and, even though it has only a shed on it, not a house, I suppose that could now be our "residence"?

Should the worst happen, we will have to do our best to convince anyone who asks that we only spend a few weeks a year at our "residence" and the rest of the time travelling this Wide Brown Land.

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Reply By: Mainey (WA) - Sunday, Jul 15, 2007 at 17:12

Sunday, Jul 15, 2007 at 17:12
Wow, I've been living in all Australian (mainland) states since 1996, I've retained a PO Box in Melbourne and my vehicle can't get re-registered in most states because it has wheels not permitted as they are too wide and the offset is not as standard, so I have the PO Box as my mailing address and live -- somewhere ??

The really big problem is Insurance, you have to be upfront with your Insurance company and tell them IN WRITING that you are travelling and will not have a 'home' address for some time, it works for me.

In WA you MUST have a current drivers licence applicable to the state you are living in IF you are going to be for 3 months or longer, no current licence and you are in deep doggy poo when you have any accident, even if it's NOT your fault because you are deemed to be driving Unlicensed and therefore UN-insured as well.
A nice:-(( policeman advised me of my obligations here in WA in 1999 Grrr.
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Reply By: billellen - Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 22:55

Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 22:55
Thankyou for the replies. I have found a book called The Ultimate Travelling Companion written by Evon & Peter Anderson which explains about registration in each State . Some States will allow itinerant people to use a relative or friend 's address for their mail. Thanks again.
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