Heat Exchange Systems
Submitted: Tuesday, Jul 17, 2007 at 20:26
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Peter L
I am looking into installing a heat exchange unit into my TI patrol, and am short of space under the hood. Can anyone tell me if the Helton units are worthwhile purchasing, as they are more compact. The Helton web site tells you that the unit is installed in parallel to the trucks heating system, but I cannot work out how you control the
water temp. I understand the other systems (Glind, Twine etc) allow you to control the
water tempt via the heating controls.
I would appreciate any info / advice you may offer.....thanks
Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Jul 17, 2007 at 20:37
Tuesday, Jul 17, 2007 at 20:37
I now use a Helton and am happy enough with it, except that the big Chevvy V8 diesel takes a while to get hot enough to warm the
water up. However, we've only used it once and that was about 10 days ago when we attending the big EO gathering at Warraweena and on the Sunday morning (when I was trying to provide
water to shower several people), it was pretty frosty. However, ended up being okay and all were happy.
I can't see any reason why you couldn't plumb the helton up the same way that the others recommend.....the same principal applies to all these heat exchanger type systems. The one thing I have thought of doing is installing one of the small electric pumps Site Link into the heater hose set-up so that once the motor was at operating temperature, it wouldn't be necessary to keep running the motor as the pump would circulate the coolant, keeping the heat exchanger at a more constant temperature for a longer period. This would be especially good if the shower was being used at the end of a long day's drive as the coolant would be at it's most optimum temperature.
Cheers
Roachie
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Follow Up By: Peter L - Tuesday, Jul 17, 2007 at 22:38
Tuesday, Jul 17, 2007 at 22:38
Appreciate the info Roachie...
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Follow Up By: traveller2 - Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 08:22
Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 08:22
Roachie
Have a look at your engine at the rear of each head there is a steel plate held on with two bolts. These are blanking plates into the cooling jacket. If you change these plates to ones with hose barbs (they are a standard part on some Chev's) or fit hose barbs to each existing plate, run a piece of heater hose ( 1/2" hose is ok) to a T piece spliced into the return heater hose this will provide hot
water to the heater much sooner after starting.
An added benefit is better cooling to the rear cylinders which is the ones that the heads crack if overheated.
There is a writeup somewhere on the net (could be the diesel page) with full instructions.
If I can locate the instructions I'll repost.
Peter
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Follow Up By: Peter 2 - Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 21:04
Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 21:04
Here is the link to the head cooling kit.
Site Link
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 23:14
Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 23:14
Thanks for the info Peter and Peter.....
One of those covers on the back of my motor is where the VDO temp gauge sender unit is located, so I can keep an eye on what the real temp is down that end of the donk.
It would be nice to be able to plumb it up with that kit....will have to give it some more thought...
Cheers
Roachie
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Reply By: That Troopy Bloke (SA) - Tuesday, Jul 17, 2007 at 21:39
Tuesday, Jul 17, 2007 at 21:39
When I installed
mine, I was wondering the same thing, so I e-mailed Tony from Helton and asked the question. His reply in part:-"We recommend parallel fitting because there is a slight gain in efficiency but our units will work just as
well in series."
I connected the heater out to Helton in, and Helton out back to the engine block.
Heater controls adjust
water temp. Works just fine.
Might be an idea to e-mail him with your questions.
Cheers
Glenn
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Follow Up By: Peter L - Tuesday, Jul 17, 2007 at 22:37
Tuesday, Jul 17, 2007 at 22:37
Thanks for the info Glenn....
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Reply By: flappa - Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 09:24
Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 09:24
The only problem with fitting to a Ti (other the space) , is that the Ti has lecky climate control rather then slide heater controls.
It was a pain mucking around with it on my Ti , so I ended up fitting a mixer system to make it easier.
It DOES work with the climate control, its just a bit of mucking around to get it right.
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Follow Up By: Peter L - Friday, Aug 03, 2007 at 22:25
Friday, Aug 03, 2007 at 22:25
Flappa,
can you please let me know the actual problen with the TI climate control system and how this impacts on the HEU, compared to a parallel set up.
I am going to get a Helton HEU but are still up in the air in respect to the actual fitting of the system. Would appreciate your comments.
Thanks Peter
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