No need to say sorry
Submitted: Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 17:29
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stefan P (Penrith NSW)
Evening all,
Am I the only one who has noticed that a lot people lately feel the need to apologise for not finding what they were looking for in a search?
Is it because some peoples standard response these days is "do a search"
I personally don't care if the same question is asked often as market trends, product quality or public opinion is a ever changing thing and the question asked today MAY not get the same responses it did Aug 2005.
So PLEASE stop saying sorry for asking, as it is a public
forum, for you will find for every nitwit that says "do a search", you will get 10 that can and will help.
Cheers Stefan
Reply By: snakereef - Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 17:44
Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 17:44
Sorry mate!
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Follow Up By: stefan P (Penrith NSW) - Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 18:07
Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 18:07
you should be!!! lol
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Reply By: Mike Harding - Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 17:46
Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 17:46
>Am I the only one who has noticed that a lot people
>lately feel the need to apologise
I saw one earlier today but I don't think that constitutes "a lot".
>I personally don't care if the same question is asked often
Then again... I don't think you answer a lot of them, do you?
>as market trends, product quality or public opinion is a ever
>changing thing and the question asked today MAY not get
>the same responses it did Aug 2005.
Trouble is something like "which battery should I buy" is not asked only at the two year intervals you suggest but rather more frequently and I doubt battery technology has changed significantly in the past few days.
Those of us who have specialist knowledge (and no bias because we don't sell things to people on the
forum) often take a considerable time (a few hours) to research and pen careful and informative replies and are disinclined to repeat the exercise 10 days later because someone cannot be bothered to do a basic search. The result of this is that we don't respond to many of the repeat queries and thus that poster never reaps the _free_ benefit of the vast array of specialist knowledge available on the internet. He would be far better off doing a search and then coming back with more specific questions.
Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: stefan P (Penrith NSW) - Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 18:03
Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 18:03
"do a search" ;) I have seen about 10 or so over the last few days
I answer what I can when I can, I don't answer if I can't add something of value
as it is a public
forum, thanks for your input
Cheers Stefan
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Follow Up By: vuduguru - Saturday, Jul 21, 2007 at 09:42
Saturday, Jul 21, 2007 at 09:42
Thought that was Mke's standard answer. Maybe referring them to the relevant post/s would be more helpful.
Shane
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Saturday, Jul 21, 2007 at 10:27
Saturday, Jul 21, 2007 at 10:27
So you'd like me to keep a cross referenced index of my (frequent) answers to people's questions and then assess which of those responses might be most appropriate for the new question being asked and subsequently post details (would you like line numbers too?) of the threads the poster may wish to peruse.
Would it be better if I were to offer to pop round to their place and give them a free tutorial on the subject?
Why do you think it's so hard and challenging for people to do a search on the subject of their interest - are you suggesting they don't have the intelligence or that the search function on this site is so hard to use that most are incapable.
When you go to a library do you march up to the librarian and expect them to answer your question or do seek the reference section first?
Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Saturday, Jul 21, 2007 at 10:50
Saturday, Jul 21, 2007 at 10:50
roflmao
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Sunday, Jul 22, 2007 at 14:03
Sunday, Jul 22, 2007 at 14:03
Mike thanx for the offer, I would like to know the post where you incorrectly referenced Mildred in response to a post about snorkels, if you could consult your index of responses and provide date, time, reply AND post ID as
well as a short summary of your response and colour of jocks you were wearing whilst responding that would help me to ascertain the length I need to make this piece of cornice I am measuring.
Thankyou and look forward to receiving this IMPORTANT piece of data.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Sunday, Jul 22, 2007 at 14:32
Sunday, Jul 22, 2007 at 14:32
Errr... Bonz... I think you'll find the post you mention regarding Mildred and the latex rubber
snorkel was a private e-mail I sent directly to you. As you might imagine, I do not retain copies of such e-mails.
Mike Harding
PS. Do you think a size 7 would be OK?
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Sunday, Jul 22, 2007 at 15:44
Sunday, Jul 22, 2007 at 15:44
mmmm I did consider this option but the plaster saw forbid me exploring it further, Size 7 was also consodered but the know on the end stripped its thread and the fish fell out.
I consulted the Book Of Armaments and theres no mildred related email in there so I defer to www.mildredthegoat.com.bleat
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Follow Up By: Member - Edward G (QLD) - Sunday, Jul 22, 2007 at 21:00
Sunday, Jul 22, 2007 at 21:00
Well I Googled it and did the
forum lookup too but no www.mildredthegoat.com.bleat ;)
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 18:01
Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 18:01
Stefan
Yeh gets on ya goat a bit, like when in a
supermarket people are saying sorry all the time when really they haven't bumped you, not in your way , or you meet them in a corner, NOW it's a different kettle of fish when some fool pushes the trolly into your heel when your wearing thongs Grrrr
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Follow Up By: stefan P (Penrith NSW) - Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 18:10
Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 18:10
ask away I say, If people are sick of the same question, they won't answer. But thats not the issue....its the fact that people on here now feel the need that they HAVE too apologise for asking!!! Thats what upsets me a little
Stefan
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 18:56
Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 18:56
Stefan
Oh ....i see ....is that all ,... um ..so it'll be ok to ram the Trolley into your butt and take skin off the shin , WHERE DO YOU DO YOUR SHOPPING ,
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Follow Up By: stefan P (Penrith NSW) - Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 19:01
Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 19:01
"WHERE DO YOU DO YOUR SHOPPING"
Two aisles in front of you to avoid any awkward moments in regards to saying sorry or not!! ;)
Stefan
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 19:12
Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 19:12
Looks like one will have to get a V8 TD Trooly ...I mean Trolly
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Reply By: Grungle - Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 19:01
Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 19:01
Hi Stefan,
I agree with you 100%. If it is a question that is asked a lot then all
forum veteren's have to say is that yes I have this/done that/know why and if you would like to know more them send me a member message. Oh and BTW, if you do a search of the
forum you should find a lot of info on the subject.
Honestly it doesn't take much to write something similar to the above and it holds not only the person writing it in high regard but makes people feel welcome to the
forum.
If people feel that they are sick of seeing that question being asked then don't view the thread or respond.
My 2 cents
Regards
David
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Follow Up By: stefan P (Penrith NSW) - Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 19:08
Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 19:08
Too true, must scare a few people testing the
water before they jump in and become members
Stefan
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Follow Up By: Member - Glenn D (NSW) - Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 20:43
Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 20:43
Hows it going guys ,
Initially , when I started posting on this
forum I would have agreeed 100% with you guys.
It only take a couple of detailed replies about such things as spare wheel spacing , especially if you have posted a paragraph of details a couple of days before ! to get the ' you should do a
search' monster out !
At least if I tell some one to
search for something I dont do it in a rude way ,
You just have to remember that everyone has a first question, how silly was yours ?
Glenn.
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Reply By: live4theweekends - Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 19:27
Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 19:27
I am fairly new to this
forum and am guilty of saying sorry! I have found that while I always do a
search first you often dont find the specific answer you want and sometimes it seems to depend on the specific words you type in to the
search as to whether you find the correct info.
Its nice to know there are some out there that dont mind a few questions from a relative 'beginner'. Having said that I have found that those who answered my questions have been very helpful.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: stefan P (Penrith NSW) - Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 20:41
Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 20:41
no need to say sorry, ask away I say......I to have found the
search function a bit 'iffy' sometimes
Cheers Stefan
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Reply By: Member - Linda M (VIC) - Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 20:37
Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 20:37
Well said, Stefan. I agree. If people don't feel like answering the 10000th landcruiser v patrol, engel v
waeco question, just ignore it. There's always newbies who will want to jump in with an answer.
Ask now, pray for forgiveness later!!
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Follow Up By: stefan P (Penrith NSW) - Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 20:43
Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 20:43
Exactly.......see I know that
waeco and Nissans are best so I leave those questions to people who are still working that out! LOL
Cheers Stefan
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Reply By: Wisebyname - Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 20:42
Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 20:42
Stefan
this has been done 73938017787894987838490744098878740000000 times, do a
search,
Sorry
I've probably stolen truckster's thunder here, sorry truckster, yeah i did a
search........
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Reply By: Adapi - Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 22:57
Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 22:57
New members to the
forum do they or are they aware of the seach facilities on this program and do they know how to use it, not everyone is a computer expert. my first question on here was replied with " do a
search its been ask many times before" that response turned me right off comming here and of only now after 8 months started to return and thinking now of subscribing,
Adapi
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Reply By: Shaker - Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 23:17
Friday, Jul 20, 2007 at 23:17
Actually the biggest problem here is the hijacking of threads, (which some may accuse me of doing here) & using them for private chat.
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Reply By: vuduguru - Monday, Jul 23, 2007 at 02:26
Monday, Jul 23, 2007 at 02:26
pack of girls!
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