What can I do to my patrol?

Submitted: Monday, Jul 23, 2007 at 23:08
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Well, I miss the jeep we sold the other week, it was such a luxurious V8 42d limo, I hope we did the right thing selling it and buying a 99 patrol in its place!
I want to make some mods to it to give it some character and stop the missus from thining its her car!!! I need some suggestions.
Its a 99 4.5 litre petrol with impco gas system, Ti bumper.
I thought about getting some driving lights, what are some good brands and models? I was looking at a heap on ebay, mostly german ones that looked ok, any suggestions?
Is it worth putting extractors on it, for an increase in performance etc. ?
Aftermarket remotte central locking & alarms?(ours only has central locking).
Was checking some on the strathfield site that looked ok, any experiences?

Is the Ti bumper ok, it looks pretty flimsy, its light though?

Unfortunately it wont be doing any hardcore 4wding, or maybe if I have a change of heart it could, but be mainly a cruising, caravaning, tourer.

Thanks guys, this site is so huge its a bit daunting for a 4wd noob!

Justin

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Reply By: ross - Monday, Jul 23, 2007 at 23:46

Monday, Jul 23, 2007 at 23:46
Mods for mods sake is not a good idea. Wait until you know exactly what you want it for and take the time to choose useful products.

Any of the well known brands of lighting should suit.
Does it have a bullbar? Best accessory you can have in remote areas.
Tyres,you need decent tyres for towing.
UHF radios are useful for traffic conditions even if you only listen on the side.
Bigger radio antennae so you can have receive commercial broadcasts longer and clearer.
First aid kits are a necessity on the road.
A good light over the rear for changing tyres, (un) hitching caravans,searching for tools is always handy.

Remote aftermarket central locking is great until it locks you out miles from anywhere with the sun going down.
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Follow Up By: justin71 - Tuesday, Jul 24, 2007 at 10:06

Tuesday, Jul 24, 2007 at 10:06
hahaha, so no go for the central locking thing then lol
Good suggestions, thanks for posting ross )
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Reply By: OnYaBike (Cairns, QLD) - Monday, Jul 23, 2007 at 23:55

Monday, Jul 23, 2007 at 23:55
If the suspension is standard get a decent set of shockies. Specially if you are caravanning as you say.
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Follow Up By: justin71 - Tuesday, Jul 24, 2007 at 10:04

Tuesday, Jul 24, 2007 at 10:04
Well, it will only be occasional caravanning, say school holidays a couple times a year, so what shocks are good ones?
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Follow Up By: OnYaBike (Cairns, QLD) - Tuesday, Jul 24, 2007 at 18:17

Tuesday, Jul 24, 2007 at 18:17
Well we could start an argument here but I guess any of the brand names would be better than standard shocks.
I put Old Man Emus from ARB on the Rodeo after a couple of trips to Weipa and Bamaga and the difference is chalk and cheese. Specially with a load and on corrugations. When hitting those sudden dips you can feel the car being slowed instead of hitting the stops with a thud, and you come up gently rather than feeling the seat belt grab your shoulders.
Standard shocks are only good for the highway.
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Follow Up By: justin71 - Tuesday, Jul 24, 2007 at 23:04

Tuesday, Jul 24, 2007 at 23:04
Thanks for the post onyabike!

Do you think its worthwhile upgrading shocks if the long touring trips/caravanning etc, are only a few times a year? Is it worth upgrading them if you mostly drive on bitumen? Would the shocks you mention be bad using on the tarmac all the time? Also, dont want a lift kit with the shockers, how do they tow with their 4wds so high and the caravan low?
cheers
justin
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Follow Up By: OnYaBike (Cairns, QLD) - Tuesday, Jul 24, 2007 at 23:45

Tuesday, Jul 24, 2007 at 23:45
You've just about gone past my level of expertise on things mechanical.
I would say if towing or carrying reasonably heavy loads on tarmac they would be worthwhile. Maybe get them just on the back. Definitely won't be bad! I meant that just tooling round town unloaded the standard ones will do you. You don't want to spend $600 plus if you don't need to.
Can't comment on lift kits etc but I'm sure there is some expertise out there.
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Reply By: zumzum - Tuesday, Jul 24, 2007 at 08:24

Tuesday, Jul 24, 2007 at 08:24
I suggest to insatall a reputable cargo barrier ... Very handy ...
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Follow Up By: justin71 - Tuesday, Jul 24, 2007 at 10:05

Tuesday, Jul 24, 2007 at 10:05
Good idea, would keep our 5 1/2 yr old in the back at the same time!! He has a tendecny to like the back dicky seats lol
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Reply By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Tuesday, Jul 24, 2007 at 12:22

Tuesday, Jul 24, 2007 at 12:22
What is your budget?
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Follow Up By: justin71 - Tuesday, Jul 24, 2007 at 12:52

Tuesday, Jul 24, 2007 at 12:52
Dont know, couple of grand maybe, although I need new tryres pretty soon, just wanted to add some individualism to it.
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Follow Up By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Tuesday, Jul 24, 2007 at 13:05

Tuesday, Jul 24, 2007 at 13:05
Well to give you a idea

Tyres will be $320 or so per corner if you go for a good tyre and some a little bigger than standard
Cargo Barrier roughly $800….check ebay for second hand ones…I did that and saved heaps
Good spot lights $300 for a pair
You will need a good UHF and aerial when you go touring that’s another $500
Good shocks and coil upgrade maybe another $1500
Maybe some air bags in the back to help with sagging when you tow another $500…I think
A nice roof rack to carry bulky things $800
GPS system for when you are off the normal roads $700
A entertainment system for the young ones in the back…maybe a flip down screen or something so they can watch DVD’s on the long road $500
Reputable air pump for inflating tyres and possibly air beds
I would also go a nice dark tint to make it hard to see into the car
I can keep going but we are already up to the $8000 mark

Most people take years to setup their trucks to the way they want them. It’s very much a individual thing and what you want to do with your truck
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Follow Up By: justin71 - Tuesday, Jul 24, 2007 at 23:13

Tuesday, Jul 24, 2007 at 23:13
Thanks for the informative post troll 81!!!

Yes of course I see what you mean with all the extras etc. hows longs a piece of string eh.

Well, I just checked out your rig page, thats a friggin beast there mate, nice truck!

Can you tell me anything about the 99 patrol? I was actually on the pacemaker site last night having a look, how does it go with the headers, what difference has it made? With your shockers, it looks like theres a decent lift kit fitted to your truck, how do the nissans behave on the open sealed highways with the big lift kits? And another q. is how do u tow caravans with the nissan being so high off the ground.

thanks, I could ask heaps more questions, if you could let me in on any sites you know with advise and info for the new nissan owners, that would be awesome,

regards

Justin
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Follow Up By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Wednesday, Jul 25, 2007 at 08:29

Wednesday, Jul 25, 2007 at 08:29
Justin

My rig is not really that big…it only looks big in the photos. I am running a 2 inch lift with 285x75R16 Micky Thompsons. The shocks are Rancho adjustable and I find them a little bit to soft but they are a good shock but I don’t think you need those adjustable ones I have only adjusted them once or twice since I have had the car and that was from soft to hard and it’s still to soft As far as the engine is concerned the 4.5 petrol is a very reliable engine….I can’t comment on gas since mine is petrol only. You will find that you have allot of torque in this car for 4x4 especially in low range and towing. I don’t have anything I tow but sometimes I tow my Dad’s boat and hardly notice the boat behind it. I have pacemakers on mine but I bought the truck with them on so can’t comment on before and after. But a mate didn’t have pacemakers on his and then he got some and he noticed a slight difference in performance. One thing that I would recommend you do is take it to a performance place and let them test and tune it on a dyno. My fuel economy was pretty bad I used to get around 500km’s out of both tanks and after the dyno they noticed that the oxy sensor was faulty thus causing the fuel fix to be wrong and pumping in more fuel then was needed. Now I get around 650-700 out of both tanks and I am happy with that. As for the open highways I regularly drive from Brisbane to Noosa and find it fine on the open road and I don’t have any complaints in that department.

The other thing I didn’t mention is you MUST get a dual battery setup. Some people will debate the MUST but I don’t want to be stuck out in the bush only to find I left my radio on over night and I can’t start my car or the battery might be faulty or what ever the case might be.

But seriously most of the information and advice I got over the years was from this site. There are some very nice and clever people on here
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Follow Up By: Dave & Shelley (NT) - Wednesday, Jul 25, 2007 at 10:42

Wednesday, Jul 25, 2007 at 10:42
Hi Justin,

I have to agree with Troll here. Some of the rigs you see on the members pages (hit members bar and then members rigs button) are awesome and if there is anything there you are interested in, you just need drop an e-mail there way and most blokes will bend over backwards to help you out. Enjoy your new project.

Dave
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Follow Up By: justin71 - Wednesday, Jul 25, 2007 at 22:34

Wednesday, Jul 25, 2007 at 22:34
Thanks for that info Troll. I was reading up on dual battery systems on ebay the other day, they seem a great idea, and why not since theres the space under the bonnet for it.
Re the dyno tuning, Ive heard that before that people get much better economy after dyno tuning, and specifically with gas too, I will wait until I get my gas system serviced for its 1500k one and then get it dyno tuned, see what happens.

I was thinking of getting a k&n air filter as a cheap and good upgrade just to make it breath easier, what do you think?

My father in law whos an ex truck diesel mechanic was watching the tacho as we took him for a drive the other week and he said what you said about the towing and easily towing stuff with it and not even noticing it, it seems a grunty low geared engine. We had a v8 jeep grand cherockee for 5 yrs before the patrol and that went like a cut cat, but this one loafs around, but it seems to be nice and gutsy though.

How bigs the sub tank in the patrol? It never seems to take much petrol and mine is so dicky with petrol bowsers, hard to get it to poor in, keeps stopping. It only seems a small tank though as it doesnt take much to fill it. The gas tank I put 100 litres in the other day so the tank must be 100+ litres which is good.

When do you use 4wd high? Is this mainly for using when you are going a bit too fast to have it in low? The diff locks are a new idea for me, u get spolit with the jeep having quadradrive and only ever having to put it in low, not even get out of the vehicle. Do nissan still have the diff locks on the new patrols where you have to manually change them?

Enough babbling I guess, thanks for the info, much appreciated

Justin
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Follow Up By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Thursday, Jul 26, 2007 at 10:20

Thursday, Jul 26, 2007 at 10:20
K&N filter won’t make that much difference but others might disagree with me. The sub tank is 30 or 35 liters very small yes. High and Low range is very much a individual thing …I use High when I am in thick sand and driving in muddy and very sandy conditions…low range only gets use when I go and play out in the 4x4 parks up steep hills and rocks etc etc or when I pull someone out of a bog. As for the diff locks read your manual I actually have ARB air lockers on the front and rear so I just flick a switch when I want to engage.

Do some searching on this forum for some key words and you will find heaps of good gear
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Follow Up By: justin71 - Thursday, Jul 26, 2007 at 17:29

Thursday, Jul 26, 2007 at 17:29
Hey Troll

Read through my manual when we got it, its one of those multi model ones where it says may be fitted or whatever. Just have diff locks on the front that I can tell, do you have ones on the back as well? How much were the air lockers?
Thats what I was thinking with the high and low.
cheers, & yes, been researching on here for a week now, but I like to chat to specific people that have the same car, hence you!
thanks
Justin
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Follow Up By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Thursday, Jul 26, 2007 at 17:38

Thursday, Jul 26, 2007 at 17:38
I was actually very lucky with my truck the guy before me did some touring and added bits and pieces on so when I got it I only had to add minor things. Your patrol will have a LSD in the back and they are pretty good from what I have read and then just the standard dif locks on the front. Lockers front and rear will set you back around 4k I think
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Reply By: Member - Patrick (QLD) - Wednesday, Jul 25, 2007 at 04:08

Wednesday, Jul 25, 2007 at 04:08
As others have said, adding extras to your vehicle is a time and money thing. I have a 2003 STL which I have fitted the following items

Cooper ATR's
IFS shocks and coils
TX4200 radio and Ariel
Air bags to the rear
Snorkel
power chip
roof racks
sand grabber mats all areas
2nd battery + 2 x 12 volt outlets in the rear for the Waeco 50 litre fridge + lights
Driving lights
Bull Bar
Tow bar
Window tint
ARB side rails replacing the cheap soft and often damaged Nissan originals.

There's more but that will do for now. Most of these have been added in the first 18 months.

With regard to the height difference for towing caravans, I use and adjustable Hayman Reese tongue that drop the height of the towbar to acceptable heights. On vans from memory the tow ball cannot be more than 420mm above the ground. I that its different for camper trailers.

Hope this helps.

Cheers, Patrick
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Follow Up By: justin71 - Wednesday, Jul 25, 2007 at 22:22

Wednesday, Jul 25, 2007 at 22:22
Thanks for the info Patrick.

Adjustable hayman reese sounds the way to go then if you had a high lift kit and are towing. cheers
Justin
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