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Submitted: Monday, Jul 30, 2007 at 19:21
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Advantech Design are advertising a TrackRanger mapping and GPS package for use on a laptop. Anyone had experience with the product? They also offer a GPS unit with magnetic clamp that can be attached to the outside of the car.

Also. Any suggestions on how to protect a laptop (when in use) over rough country?

Regards

Kim
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Reply By: Mike Harding - Monday, Jul 30, 2007 at 19:24

Monday, Jul 30, 2007 at 19:24
>Also. Any suggestions on how to protect a laptop
>(when in use) over rough country?

Yes, don't use one.

I know others have faired better than I but I've broken two (Dell/IBM) so far with 4WDing.

Mike Harding
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Monday, Jul 30, 2007 at 19:44

Monday, Jul 30, 2007 at 19:44
Hi Kim

I have only done an evaluation of Trackranger around melbourne suburbs and it did its job of keeping the GPS position over the cursor quite well , however it had quite limited ability to cut/paste make track and waypoints lists and those sorts of tasks , still I has less issues with it than Ozi-explorer which has very limited track scaling capabilities.

I was also unable to get more than stock answers to questions from the manufacturers.

I have not found any of those things particularly good ,but then that opinion has been coloured by the difficulty of using a laptop in the car.

I believe a couple on here have had sucess particularly with the tablet type
that can fold the screen back, but each case has involved a lot of work in the mounting system..

It general though the light output of the average laptop / Pda is just to limited for me and I have needed a good qualiy GPS screen.

Robin Miller

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Follow Up By: Member - Kim M (VIC) - Monday, Jul 30, 2007 at 20:23

Monday, Jul 30, 2007 at 20:23
Robin

Both you and Mike don't appear to be in favour of a laptop, which does'nt surprise me. I can't figure out how you would protect a laptop over rough country.

You mentioned a "good quality GPS screen". Can you elaborate further?

Many thanks

Kim
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Monday, Jul 30, 2007 at 21:10

Monday, Jul 30, 2007 at 21:10
Hi Kim

I have measured and designed many screens (there once even used to be a factory in melbourne that produced them).

Most laptops have less light output per unit area than some of the smaller screens
used on better GPS'es. They also tend to have a more limited viewing angle.

The above makes them harder to read in general even if you solve the mounting issues.

Always check any screen based system before you buy it.

Best way is to hold the unit with the sun in front of you and with light coloured clothing on (e.g. white business shirt). Turn the screen on an angle and ensure you can read it.

You need a consistent colour on the screen otherwise you will get false results.
E.G. A dark screen will show reflections more.

I also need to use those magnifying glasses for shorter distances, this shows up the lack of resolution (pixels) in some of the less costly units.

From the above I choose the 276c GPS as having the best available and most readable screen for viewing when driving. The unit was also not to big to be able to mount such that it could be viewed whilst not taking one's eyes off the road.

Robin Miller

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Follow Up By: Member - Kim M (VIC) - Monday, Jul 30, 2007 at 22:00

Monday, Jul 30, 2007 at 22:00
Robin

You've turned me off the idea of using a laptop. As previously mentioned I can't see how these things would stand rough treatment. Back to Plan B...whatever that is.

Many thanks

Kim

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Follow Up By: Leroy - Tuesday, Jul 31, 2007 at 13:50

Tuesday, Jul 31, 2007 at 13:50
I just wrote a speil that didn't post. No time to write it again. But basically don't be put off using a laptop with ozi. What do you think all the comp guys use? I've used mine for a few paj challenges etc and many trips. My passenger hangs onto mine or some like the comp guys make sturdy mounts. Never had an issue seeing the screen in the vehicle. Anything is difficult to see in direct sunlight. I say go for it but always ensure you have a paper map as a backup.

Leroy
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Tuesday, Jul 31, 2007 at 16:04

Tuesday, Jul 31, 2007 at 16:04
"Sturdy mounts" Sounds like they could be nasty in an accident!
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Reply By: Member - Mark E (VIC) - Monday, Jul 30, 2007 at 20:56

Monday, Jul 30, 2007 at 20:56
Really, for rough, corrugated roads, this is the only thing that will last the distance...but at a price (read..$$$$$$$$$$)

Panasonic Toughbook

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We use them at work and they can stand quite severe punishment. I can v ouch personally as I often assault the thing on night shift at 0400hrs when the stupid windows system says "....fatal exception...contact administrator..." Would be brilliant in a Mac configuration... ;-).

Cheers,

Mark
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Reply By: Alan H (Narangba QLD) - Tuesday, Jul 31, 2007 at 12:33

Tuesday, Jul 31, 2007 at 12:33
I have used Trackranger but was a much ealier version. It performed as well as Oziexplorer does. Back then Ozi had more bells and whistles in particular it had 3D which I dabbled with but don't use. Current version of trackranger does everything Ozi does except 3D I think. Both run UBD maps etc very well.

I swapped over to OZI due to getting a PDA and OZI had a version to run on such equipment and trackranger did not. I always had excellent service from Trackranger.

I currently run OZI on a laptop with an extension touchscreen which I mount on the dash (I found the PDA screen too small)

The laptop is encased in a wooden box on the back seat floor and rides well. The extension screen is a cheap and NOT a sunlight screen so I have cardboard wings on it to shade the screen.

When I save my pennies I would like a large sunlight screen but this means big bucks. Some of Garmin range etc now have excellent sunlight screens and some are even large enough for me to see but are around the $2000 area
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Follow Up By: Member - Wilgadene (QLD) - Tuesday, Jul 31, 2007 at 17:30

Tuesday, Jul 31, 2007 at 17:30
Hi Alan H,
I'm thinking of doing the same as you have done. Already have all the software and laptop. What brand of extension touch screen did you use?

Cheers
Kev
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Follow Up By: Alan H (Narangba QLD) - Wednesday, Aug 01, 2007 at 09:07

Wednesday, Aug 01, 2007 at 09:07
Wilgadene

It is a 8" touch screen I got from bitdistribution. It has no brand name on it. Similar to Lilliput and workd fine.

Cheers

Alan
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Follow Up By: Ghosty - Sunday, Aug 05, 2007 at 17:33

Sunday, Aug 05, 2007 at 17:33
Hi All,
I had a similar problem in that I want turn by turn for the city and The like of Discover Aus in the bush for track detail. So i made an in-car pc... yes sounds daunting doesn't it. Well it was easy and relatively in expensive (1500)
So now I have the best of both worlds, plus I store music and movies for the kids etc.
Here is what I have.
1 Dell laptop from ebay $600 mounted under the drivers seat in a cradle.
1 7" spring Loaded (like a motorised but no motor) in dash touch screen ($550)
1 Bluetooth GPS Puck ($99) another ebay item
1 Discover Aus on Cd ($299).
1 Freedrive - free from the web turn by turn navigation software maps are 4 years old but good for 99% of what I do, cause the screen size is 7" puts tomtoms etc to shame.

I added to this a reverse camera $89 - ebay
and a set of reversing sensors $49 - ebay

Now I have the best of all systems and have used it over rough terrain, I do expect the hard drive to give up due to the rough terrain at some stage and when it dose I will replace with a solid state no moving parts hard drive.

Now my 2003 GU is high teck I can see the kids when they walk behind the car and get an audible alarm as well. The use of my incar pc is endless, the software is freeware and is called Roadrunner, you can make it look like and do what ever you want. check out www.mp3car.com for the site and search roadrunner.

Ghosty
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