2005 prado diesel
Submitted: Tuesday, Jul 31, 2007 at 15:40
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Member - Rob S (NSW)
Thinking seriously of buying a new Prado diesel but finances may force us to settle for a late model used. SWMBO thinks that she has seen some negative comments about the 2005 model. Has anybody any knowledge of this.
Thanks.
Reply By: Chris L (Qld) - Tuesday, Jul 31, 2007 at 20:28
Tuesday, Jul 31, 2007 at 20:28
Agreed although never owned one. A builder I work for has had two in four years with no mech troubles whatsoever but the older TD wont handle the hills as good as a new common rail. His 06 Grande TD struggles going through the tunnels up the freeway (
Adelaide) but cruises on the flats no worries. His consumption is approx 14Lt/100km around town and never been off road so dont know what it gets there. I
test drove the D4 Prado recently and was very impressed, very quiet and very responsive off the line.
Have you considered a Pajero? Appentices Dad has a 06 Exceed TD and claims to tow a 21 foot boat up the tunnels at 100kms easy but yet to see that. ;)
I have a Petrol/Gas Injection 100 Cruiser so am biased toward that but each to their own.
Cheers Chard
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Follow Up By: chardthechippy - Tuesday, Jul 31, 2007 at 20:31
Tuesday, Jul 31, 2007 at 20:31
That post was from Chard the Chippy not Chris L.
Dont know what happened there????
Cheers Chard
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Reply By: Muddy doe (SA) - Tuesday, Jul 31, 2007 at 20:55
Tuesday, Jul 31, 2007 at 20:55
The newer one is getting about 25-30% better fuel figures.
Mine is an '04 Manual TD and with the full roof rack and Goodyear MTR tyres on it gets around 14l per 100km.
Mate at work has a new one and it does less than 10l per 100km.
Mine already has good cruising range with the 180l tank - 1200 to 1300km - but the new one will easy to 1600 to 1700 before needing a drink!
When combined with the extra kw I would REALLY be trying to stretch to the new one. Even consider getting a lower grade perhaps. If you are lokong at an '05 GXL then maybe look at a new GX and then add a few bits later once the finances improve.
Cheers
Muddy
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Follow Up By: Muddy doe (SA) - Tuesday, Jul 31, 2007 at 21:00
Tuesday, Jul 31, 2007 at 21:00
After writing this reply I have been considering my own words in terms of just how much this new motor has affected the resale value on
mine!
If you DO buy one with the old motor you should really be able to screw the seller down on price based on the advance in economy and power in the current model.
Don't get me wrong - I am very happy with my current car, but there is always that twinge of envy when you see the later one!!
Cheers
Muddy
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Reply By: Member - Matthew H (SA) - Wednesday, Aug 01, 2007 at 12:07
Wednesday, Aug 01, 2007 at 12:07
G'Day All & Rob,
Firstly, long time reader (2001) and finally got around to becoming a member last month! Anyhow, we bought a 2003 GXL TD manual Prado in September last year. Mechanically, I dont think there have been any changes up to the release of the new D4D model recently. I'm mildly curious with some of the fuel figures that you guys are reporting. I regularly get 11.5 l/100km around town, and on a recent trip from Wagga Wagga to
Adelaide towing 700kg C/T and a car full of stuff, I averaged 13.1 l/100km @ 110km/hr with A/C on. I dont drive like I stole it, but I do put the boot into it as required. After owning a N/A 3.0L Diesel Hilux previously, the Prado feels like a F1 car -
well almost.
At the end of the day, you get what you pay for and I think you'll be chuffed with the Prado, though 126kw would be nicer than 96kw!
Cheers, Matt
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Follow Up By: Steve-C - Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 11:22
Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 11:22
Matt, I'm with you. The fuel figure I get around town is similar to you. Although I don't have a roof rack on which would have some effect.
The only time I have suffered was when towing my Jayco Eagle up a long
hill into a strong head wind.
Cheers
Steve
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Follow Up By: Member - Matthew H (SA) - Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 11:41
Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 11:41
Hi Steve,
Not wanting to digrees too far from Rob's original thread, but our Prado is essentially "clean" - no real accessories fitted as yet apart from a small UHF whip antenna.
We are currently looking at a Coromal camper as a replacement for our C/T so I expect the mileage may change a bit. In my experience, diesels economy doesnt change much regardless of towed weight - within reason of course.
I might start a newthread later that showcases all the work I did on my Hilux and C/T a few years back. Stay tuned the trailer will be appearing here soonish.
Prado does it for us!
Cheers, Matt
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Reply By: Member - Rob S (NSW) - Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 16:28
Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 16:28
Sorry guys but i did not post this something has gone wrong
some one has hijacked my log on info or some thing.
I don't want a new prado as yet the 80 series is just fine.
I have alerted the moderator to see if he knows what has happened
I wonder if any one else has had this problem before.
Thanks for the reply's but you have all be given a bum steer.
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Reply By: roblin - Monday, Aug 06, 2007 at 19:30
Monday, Aug 06, 2007 at 19:30
I have a 2004 manual TD. I regularly tow a 5.3m aluminium runabout with it and, on occasion, a 16ft caravan. Before the van we used to tow a Cavalier Camper.
None of these have presented difficulties however I have a D-tronic chip in it. The difference is chalk and cheese. Without the chip, the diesel is sluggish to 1800RPM (Euro fuel control measures not turbo lag - refer LCOOL) but with the chip it is a whole lot easier to drive. It maintains highway speeds easily, I don't need to change down gears to climb hills. For those that know the F3 freeway north of
Sydney, I can climb the
hill - southbound - at Ourimbah at 110 km/h with ease.
I used to live in
Toowoomba and needed to change down to 3rd in my LPG Patrol but could climb the range in 5th with the Prado.
They are a great vehicle, very capable - on and off road - and I average about 11.5 l/100km.
I haven't driven a new D4D and I would probably want one if I did BUT the old TD will cost you between $15 and $20K less, you will probably pick up one with a load of off road options that have never been used apart from school runs, and you can chip it to get about another 15% more power. If you are going to tow a lot though, I would suggest an automatic rather than a manual. After all, they are still only a 3 litre 96kw (112ish Kw with chip) diesel.
Cheers
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