YIPPEE - Today I got my permit to travel the Gary Junction road-after 3 months !

Submitted: Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 16:16
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In May I applied for permits to travel via Punmu and Kiwirrkurra to the WA / NT border and from the WA / NT border to Alice Springs via Sandy Blight Junction and Papunya .

I got permission for the NT section by return email . I got the WA permission today - to allow me to travel between the dates of July 11 and July 15 .

What a bunch of half arsed losers . How can you take a system like this seriously .

Willie .
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Reply By: Member - RnR (NSW) - Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 16:27

Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 16:27
Willie,

Guess what...........no one will even ask to view them. We recently had 10 vehicles in our group on the same road and we never had to show them once.

Regards
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 16:33

Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 16:33
RnR

I have never been asked for a permit , any of the times I have been on the aboriginal reserves .

Have I seen your Gary Junction photo on the Bushtracker page ?

Willie
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Reply By: Member - Debbie R (SA) - Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 17:01

Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 17:01
I am still having trouble with having to ask permission to travel through my own country. Barry
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Follow Up By: Steve from Top End Explorer Tours - Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 17:18

Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 17:18
So you would have no problem with me camping and bleep ting in you back yard then.

Steve.
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Follow Up By: Member - 'Lucy' - Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 19:17

Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 19:17
Making a retort like that could get yo placed on the Canberra "clean up list"
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Reply By: Member - Debbie R (SA) - Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 17:31

Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 17:31
Steve,
I am surprised you would ask such a question, but to answer it , NO I would not mind ,providing you treated it as you would your own, but therein lies the problem, doesnt it? My point being obvious I would have thought, if everyone did just that, we would not be having this discussion, areas would not be closed, and we would not have to seek permission to travel our own country.
Barry
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Follow Up By: Hairy - Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 19:49

Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 19:49
I also wouldnt mind, especially if taxpayers paid for my road, fuel station, school, power supply, health clinic, housing, garbage collection, food, water.......etc, etc, etc.
In fact if I was given all that it would be called a town, not a private community for one race of people only.

Cheers
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Reply By: TimS - Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 17:37

Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 17:37
3 months? Ha! that's nothing! I first applied for my WA permits back in Feb this year, again in May and again in June (all by fax) and finally again in mid July via the new online permit system. They finally came through yesterday after numerous follow up phone calls....
I'm leaving in two weeks so I'm glad I started the process 6 months ago!

Tim
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Reply By: Barry 2 - Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 19:54

Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 19:54
I must have been lucky after reading these posts, I applied for my WA permits online 21st July and faxed to me yesterday 1st Aug got no complaints here
Maybe I'm just better looking (He He He)
Safe 4x4'n
Barry
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Reply By: Member - bungarra (WA) - Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 22:49

Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 22:49
They dont need permits to leave "their" country and enter "ours". It's apetheid in reverse.

I have never asked for permits .....nor will I ever seek permits on principal......I only leave my footprints and cold campfire ashes

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Reply By: Richard Kovac - Friday, Aug 03, 2007 at 00:05

Friday, Aug 03, 2007 at 00:05
Wiilie Hi

Can't see why you had a problem, we have just aplied for the 3 to 4 permits we need for this years trip two with Ngaanyatjarra one with CLC & one with the DIA.

DIA on line
CLC on line and fax back 1-2 days max
Ngaanyatjarra 1 2-3 days by fax second faxed the 23/07/2007 returned 01/08/2007

we don't seem to have any problems with, but then We had one they never replyed, but may have been me (as most people know on this forum I'm a bit of a DH) LOL

Regards

Richard
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Reply By: Love The Outback - Friday, Aug 03, 2007 at 01:59

Friday, Aug 03, 2007 at 01:59
Willie,
Maybe they want you to go next year.........☺☻
Dana
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Reply By: Member - Barnesy (SA) - Friday, Aug 03, 2007 at 03:58

Friday, Aug 03, 2007 at 03:58
Many complain about not being able to travel in their own country. Fair enough, it is the best feeling in the world to be able to simply drive wherever you please.

But having restrictions on where you can and can't go, well now you know how Aboriginal people have felt for the last couple of centuries on land that is truly theirs. And land that has belonged to thier family since Neanderthal man was still roaming France.

There are many places on the east coast of Australia I would like to travel through but can't because it's on private land!

I costs around $30 to do a days drive on many Flinders Ranges tracks because they're on private land! Skytrek costs good money to drive, nobody complains about the owners of that land making profit from it.

Barnesy
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Reply By: 93 Navara - Saturday, Aug 04, 2007 at 10:37

Saturday, Aug 04, 2007 at 10:37
That's because Skytrek purchased their land. Don't start down that road as its apple and oranges. If communites want to charge a nominal fee, at least have the courtesy to offer a system thats easy and succinct.
I'd suggest to anyone that if you were waiting on a reply after a couple of months and your trip date arrives, carrying a copy of your request and the date submitted exonerates you from all responsibility. Worse service than a bank!
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