Gold Detecting Advice
Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 07, 2007 at 16:50
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keepingitreal
After much much deliberation, I have been researching the latest in gold detectors with the view of purchasing one in the near future(taken almost 18 mths of contemplation). I am really looking forward to my new hobby/ lifestyle. I have a few old gold
mine sites in my local area (one on one of our properties) as
well as those within about 1 1/2 hours away. We are also looking forward, as a relatively
young family, to many years of travelling and also prospecting (just getting out and about). My question relates to the limited information on the Pulse Devil (PD) . I was just about to indulge in a Minelab 4000 (ML) with a few extras. I was wondering if anyone here knows if the PD is being tested? and when will it be available? Will it be better than the ML as some forums have quoted? ( I guess I have waited 18mths, a few more won't hurt). Also any further advice or tips for success in prospecting would be kindly appreciated. Looking forward to all replies,
Regards
Keepingitreal (NSW)
Reply By: Mike Harding - Tuesday, Aug 07, 2007 at 17:54
Tuesday, Aug 07, 2007 at 17:54
A few points (and they are meant kindly – the net makes it hard to give nuance):
there is a lot more to prospecting than buying an expensive detector and waving it around. The learning curve for a detector may
well be six months or more, the learning curve for working out where to prospect and how to read the ground and the history of areas _will_ be years! :)
Detecting is a solitary task – one leaves
camp at 8am? and spends the day concentrating purely on the detector and digging up junk, will your family be happy with you out in the bush for most of the day? Prospecting often requires you to
camp in grotty bits of bushland which you would normally avoid - how will the family like that?
There are a couple of people doing development work on detectors at the moment, Minelab have had it all their own way for some time but that will soon change. Minelab detectors are good, no question, but _seriously_ overpriced. If I were in the market for a new detector at this time I would wait a while.
The prospecting group on MSN has some good info. but also a lot of rubbish is talked especially about the technical aspects of detectors – treat with caution.
I love prospecting but I’d be out in the bush even if I didn’t because I love the bush even more but it’s not for everyone – maybe buy a secondhand SD2000 or similar before forking out $5-$6K on the 4000? It’s not the detector which finds the gold it’s the man swinging it :)
Mike Harding
mike_harding@fastmail.fm
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Follow Up By: keepingitreal - Tuesday, Aug 07, 2007 at 18:49
Tuesday, Aug 07, 2007 at 18:49
Many points taken here Mike, many thanks. No problems with roughing it for myself or family. I am fully aware that i will not be an instant expert when it comes to prospecting. I am extremely keen and fully aware i may not find a thing . I am looking forward as to where it may take me and the family, who knows where we'll end up. The price of the detector to me isn't an issue as long as the quality is there. I am aware of the nature of prospecting and the skill involved. It is one of those things that I have wanted to do from when I was a teenager. You can't blame me for wanting to purchase a quality item from the start to learn the ropes so to speak. After all it is my hard earned cash i'll be spending. I do intend to fully utilize whichever detector I purchase to it's upmost, no matter how long it takes to master (or not) . It all just adds another dimension of getting out there.
I have found that people are a little loathed to give too much information or assistance on this topic with my enquiries. It's almost like they want you to fail or don't want to share their knowledge in case you benefit from it. Each to their own I guess.
Thank you kindly for your input. We too love the bush and what it has to offer.
Kind regards
Keepingitreal
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Reply By: Member - Peter H (WA) - Tuesday, Aug 07, 2007 at 19:24
Tuesday, Aug 07, 2007 at 19:24
Hi Keeping it Real
I agree with Mike. My only concern about the Pulse Devil is that for as long as I have been going to the gold detecting forums about 10mths..they have been talking about the PD. Its gunna be tested on this date..then that date. I don't think we are any closer to having an answer. As Mike said there are others that are developing other machines but when we will see them who knows. Minelab are overpriced but at the moment with the comments I am hearing the 4000 is the way to go. Unless you want to wait and see.
Peter
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Follow Up By: keepingitreal - Tuesday, Aug 07, 2007 at 20:49
Tuesday, Aug 07, 2007 at 20:49
Yeah cheers Peter. You think like me. I am aware of the delays Re: testing the PD, or the results at least. Just have to weigh up whether to wait a bit longer or not. I agree too that the ML are a little overpriced. But if they are good then they should hold their value pretty
well . I see the ML gp3500 still bring a fair bit 2nd hand. Thanks heaps for your reply and opinion
Regards
Keepingitreal (NSW)
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Reply By: keepingitreal - Tuesday, Aug 07, 2007 at 23:21
Tuesday, Aug 07, 2007 at 23:21
Sorry I forgot to add earlier that i do already have an extensive collection of geological maps and also mineral deposit maps for my local area and have a reasonable understanding of the geology and the type of landforms etc to be looking for. It has been quite a few years since I first became interested in hunting for gold, and my interest has been re-born i guess. Just looking for tips off others.
regards
Keepingitreal (NSW)
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Follow Up By: Member - Michael J (SA) - Wednesday, Aug 08, 2007 at 10:33
Wednesday, Aug 08, 2007 at 10:33
Hi Keepingitreal,
Some while ago my next door neighbor purchased a Minelab detector. As part of the deal he went to a workshop/introductory course in Vic.
Not sure if it still happens, but would not hurt to enquire.
Cheers
Michael
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Follow Up By: keepingitreal - Wednesday, Aug 08, 2007 at 21:30
Wednesday, Aug 08, 2007 at 21:30
Thanks for that Michael. I think that most people who sell them give a refresher type course. You would think after forking out good $$$ that there would be some reasonable after sales service. I am only too aware that is't always the case though. I will look into that, cheers
Regards
Keepingitreal (NSW)
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Reply By: Member - Brian (WA) - Wednesday, Aug 08, 2007 at 12:18
Wednesday, Aug 08, 2007 at 12:18
I just got back from a 25 day trip. I found 3 using a 3500, partner
found 15 using a GP Extreme. Is the Extreme better than the
3500? You still have to walk over it whichever detector you have.
Good luck with whatever machine you get. Its a good life,
spending spare time seeking the big
One of the 3 I found
Brian
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Follow Up By: Member - Brian (WA) - Wednesday, Aug 08, 2007 at 12:20
Wednesday, Aug 08, 2007 at 12:20
try this
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Follow Up By: Member - Uncle (NSW) - Wednesday, Aug 08, 2007 at 20:38
Wednesday, Aug 08, 2007 at 20:38
Nice specie Brian.!!
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Follow Up By: keepingitreal - Wednesday, Aug 08, 2007 at 21:38
Wednesday, Aug 08, 2007 at 21:38
I know I know, it's the bloke waiving the stick............ etc etc......
Nice looking specimen there Brian. Many thanks for that. If you were in my position, would you wait for a bit more info on the PD or would you purchase either 1. New ML 4000, 2.2nd hand ML 3500, OR 3. used ML Extreme??
Many thanks
Keepingitreal (NSW)
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Follow Up By: Member - Brian (WA) - Thursday, Aug 09, 2007 at 11:25
Thursday, Aug 09, 2007 at 11:25
Don't know anything about NSW detecting area's. But here in WA
if it was my first detector and I would get the Minelab 4000.
Start with the best they are a good machine or so I have been
told talking to other prospectors who have them. If money was
tight proberly a GP Extreme or 3000. cheers brian
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Follow Up By: keepingitreal - Thursday, Aug 09, 2007 at 22:37
Thursday, Aug 09, 2007 at 22:37
That's how I was thinking Brian. Thanks for the reasurance!!!!
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Follow Up By: Member - Brian (WA) - Friday, Aug 10, 2007 at 10:44
Friday, Aug 10, 2007 at 10:44
Back again. Don't know what area you live, But have herd Jack
Lang is ok. Have a look at www.jacksgold.com.au
I have never used him over here I use www.reedsprospecting.com.au
Brian
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Follow Up By: keepingitreal - Friday, Aug 10, 2007 at 14:04
Friday, Aug 10, 2007 at 14:04
Funny you should mention that, I watched a DVD with him in it recently and as a result I visited his site. VERY interesting and extremely informative.. Bought some of his DVD series which should arrive today. Also led me to further investigating and have purchased a few more books etc elsewhere. Will hopefully looking at pricing a new 4000 in the very near future. Many thanks once again for your input and advice, much appreciated.
Regards,
Keepingitreal (NSW)
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Reply By: Keith_A (Qld) - Wednesday, Aug 08, 2007 at 20:15
Wednesday, Aug 08, 2007 at 20:15
Hi KIR - like you I have always wanted to add gold prospecting to my list of activities. Local store said - if in WA or Vic, the expensive units may be worth it as larger nuggets are in those states. In Qld, not so - hence I ended up with a ML Quattro at around $1,500.
Doesn't detect as deep, but finds coins and relics, etc and maybe on a trip to WA it could find gold. Haven't got there yet..........Keith
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Follow Up By: keepingitreal - Wednesday, Aug 08, 2007 at 21:44
Wednesday, Aug 08, 2007 at 21:44
Good advice Keith. My next step now is further questions aimed at those selling them here in NSW, as this too will allevaite those same issues in my case. I want the best possible machine that will suit the conditions I intend to use it . I am aware, I too may not need to spend big $$.
Many thanks
Keepingitreal
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