Roof carrier Storage advice
Submitted: Sunday, Aug 12, 2007 at 23:58
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Im doing my 1st trip into the outback sticking to the main roads and a little unsure as to what I should store on my roof, how I should store it tie it down. I own a Landrover Series 2 and have got myself a roof carrier that is about 1.3 metres long that sits on the raised rear roof section. I will store an extra tyre here but unsure if I can safely carry
water 20 litres on the roof and 20 lires spare diesel. Is it okay to carry Gas cylinders in the vehicle 4.5 and 2 litre. I have built a shelving unit 400mm high to sit in the vehicle and will remove the rear row of passenger seats. Many questions I know but my main issue is what should I safely store on the roof. Thanks all you off roadies any advise welcome
Reply By: Rock Ape - Monday, Aug 13, 2007 at 07:13
Monday, Aug 13, 2007 at 07:13
Hi James,
See if I can help at all, I am not a fan of anything heavy on the roof, it makes for a unstable top heavy vehicle and can damage your roof structure. I don't know what the max load on the roof of a Series 2 Landy and don't know where you would find that info.
You want to keep the lighter articles on the rack and as low a profile as possible to help stop wind resistance.
If you are travelling on major roads you may do some homework on fuel availability, hence you may not have to carry the extra fuel at all. You may also be able to carry your
water in 5lt or 10 lt containers which brings down the size of the containers and make them eaiser to store and pour. These plastic jerry cans are available at many outlets.
I see nothing wrong with putting your gas bottles on the roof as it gets them out of the vehicle and there is less chance of explosion/fire. You can use the plastic cubes they sell at Kmart/Woolies to store them in just pack round them to stop them moving in the cube.
Tie downs, Auto stores sell light weight ratchet tie down straps and webbing style octupus straps, although I find the octupus straps a pain, fishing net (got any trawlers/net makers in your area as they may have a small piece cheap) I find this great. If you have things you do not wish to get wet you could tarp over the load although I find the tarping a pain. Remember the tarp has to be tight with nothing left loose to flap around or you will will end up with a shredded tarp.
Have a safe on
The Ape
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Monday, Aug 13, 2007 at 16:35
Monday, Aug 13, 2007 at 16:35
Are gas bottles legal on the roof?
I know they were banned on the roof for LPG powered vehicles.
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Follow Up By: Rock Ape - Monday, Aug 13, 2007 at 17:05
Monday, Aug 13, 2007 at 17:05
Don't know shaker, but I would rather them up there if i had an accident than in the vehicle with me. The bottles would have to be restrained as with a caravan or truck carting LPG bottles.
The Ape
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, Aug 15, 2007 at 09:53
Wednesday, Aug 15, 2007 at 09:53
Maybe the people in front of you wouldn't be so keen!
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Follow Up By: Rock Ape - Wednesday, Aug 15, 2007 at 10:43
Wednesday, Aug 15, 2007 at 10:43
Yep you maybe right, only thing is there are many ways to have an accident.
Know of one person who had dive bottles in the back, came over a
hill and there is this drunk ( estimated doing 140kph) head on and both vehicles stopped dead. Rangie verses bluebird if memory serves me right. Bottles went straight threw backseat, firewall and hit the engine.
If you read my post it says restrained
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, Aug 15, 2007 at 11:31
Wednesday, Aug 15, 2007 at 11:31
Cargo barrier?
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Thursday, Aug 16, 2007 at 14:50
Thursday, Aug 16, 2007 at 14:50
Thanks, that confirms my thoughts ...............
Spare fuel and LPG gas bottles should never be carried within the vehicle itself due to the risks of explosion and fire. They are best mounted on a purpose-built rack ON THE BACK of the vehicle.
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Reply By: Footloose - Monday, Aug 13, 2007 at 07:16
Monday, Aug 13, 2007 at 07:16
I learned to 4wd in a series 2, ahhh driving one of those is an adventure all in itself :))
Extra fuel and
water should not really be carried up top, as it alters the centre of gravity and makes it easier to tip over.
I always carry the gas cylinder inside, never had any probs, but I do check to see that it's OFF and very secure. Using a cargo barrier helps.
Good luck and have a great trip.
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Follow Up By: Member - Rotord - Monday, Aug 13, 2007 at 09:35
Monday, Aug 13, 2007 at 09:35
Hello All
Raised rear roof , I think this is a Discovery Series 2 .
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Reply By: traveller2 - Monday, Aug 13, 2007 at 08:13
Monday, Aug 13, 2007 at 08:13
If you must put stuff up top then preferably it should be light stuff like bedding, tent etc.
Keep the heavy stuuf like fuel,
water and spares down as low as possible in the car.
To avoid the hassle of tying stuff down we used to use a rackbag from
Southern Cross, easy to shove soft stuff in, easy to zip up and held to the roof by large cable ties on the corners. Put a piece of indoor/outdoor carpet between it and the rack to avoid chafing.
If putting stuff like chairs in the rackbag pack in a seperate bag first to avoid them rubbing on the bag.
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Reply By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Monday, Aug 13, 2007 at 08:38
Monday, Aug 13, 2007 at 08:38
I have 2 fridges in my car when I do little trips away and once the fridges are in I only have the room above the fridges to the roof to pack stuff so I make use of my rack allot. What I generally do is put the
water on top 3x20L containers, tents, chairs, tarp poles, shower tent. I also have 2 black storage boxes that go on top that holds all my bits and pieces for
camping…tools, cooking gear recovering gear etc etc. I am not sure how strong your roof is but I know
mine is a very strong. Yes I do put allot of stuff up there but I drive according to conditions and it’s only up there till we get to our destination.
Hope this helps a bit
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Follow Up By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Monday, Aug 13, 2007 at 08:40
Monday, Aug 13, 2007 at 08:40
Another thing
I have moved away from gas and run lights and stuff of my inverter at night. For cooking I use those small Coleman stoves with the little canisters…I just got sick of carrying big bottles of gas around
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Reply By: harryopal - Monday, Aug 13, 2007 at 10:45
Monday, Aug 13, 2007 at 10:45
This may not be a useful idea for you but I have used roofracks as a sleeping area. A simple ply box construction with a depth of about 12" and sides that fold up and a roof that basically becomes the lid on the box when folded back down. You can then keep your bedding up there. Something vaguely depressing about setting up
camp after dark but having the bedding on the roof overcomes this problem. You finish up with an easy stop arrangement and not too heavy while removing light but bulky pillows blankets etc and freeing up space below.
Harry
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Reply By: The Landy - Monday, Aug 13, 2007 at 14:00
Monday, Aug 13, 2007 at 14:00
Hi
The starting point should be to store all heavy items as low as possible and store light weight items on the roof rack. Although, this can be easier said then done. I’d look at where you are going and critically assess whether you need the additional fuel/
water.
I don’t carry gas bottles at all and use a Coleman dual burner stove which is very efficient, light weight and easy to store.
I wouldn’t store gas cylinders in a car as they vent on hot days and the risk is an accumulation of gas that ignites from a spark which could come through static electricity or simply opening the door. Many people get away with it, but be aware of the risk you are taking.
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Reply By: Member - Greydemon (WA) - Monday, Aug 13, 2007 at 16:48
Monday, Aug 13, 2007 at 16:48
As your Discovery series 2 is diesel, and you are sticking to main roads, then you almost certainly won't need to carry extra fuel. My old Disco TDi had a range of about 700kms which is more than enough to get your from Roadhouse to Roadhouse.
If you had the petrol V8 model then you wouldn't be able to carry enough Jerry cans so you would have had to arrange for a petrol tanker to follow you.
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