Disco owners - engine computers don't like water?

Submitted: Thursday, Aug 16, 2007 at 16:22
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I recently pulled a late model Landrover Discovery out of the water at Coppin's Gap (near Marble Bar WA).

The car had sat there maybe 10-15 minutes in total with the engine computer only just under water. Long enough for it to let out the smoke when he tried to start the car though.

If it had a separate body computer then that smoked too (passenger compartment was filling with water) because he couldn't even close his window for the tow back to Marble Bar.

A bit disappointing really. I would have thought they could seal the computer better than that. Especially as they offer a snorkel as a factory option.

Anyway - Disco owners who are not aware - beware, and those that are - well if it was me I'd be looking for a way to seal the thing up better. A snorkel would've been a good idea in this case too - could've just driven through - although deep, or at least reversed out.
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Reply By: Philip A - Thursday, Aug 16, 2007 at 17:04

Thursday, Aug 16, 2007 at 17:04
The correct thing to do is check the computer for water entry before trying to start, if it has been underwater.
I have personally dried out a couple of these and once dried with a coleman lamp and air bed inflator, they went again no problem.
This applies to all computer equipped 4X4s.
It's operator error that caused the problem, same as trying to start a diesel with a gutful. BANG.
Regards Philip A
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Reply By: Peter 2 - Thursday, Aug 16, 2007 at 19:06

Thursday, Aug 16, 2007 at 19:06
Best to read the owners manual and go NO deeper than the reccomended fording depth. It is usually far less than what you would imagine for most late model vehicles
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Thursday, Aug 16, 2007 at 20:11

Thursday, Aug 16, 2007 at 20:11
And ain"t that the truth!.

Axle.
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Reply By: cowpat - Thursday, Aug 16, 2007 at 20:25

Thursday, Aug 16, 2007 at 20:25
Yes of course it was user error. His wife was reading the manual whilst the car filled with water. There was a bit in there about not going into water deeper than some amount, but not what to do if you did. Not that I would expect that it would.

They had trusted the in-car GPS a little too much, and followed its advice as to where to go. Of course they didn't even stop to check the depth, or consider that the water level may have risen since the ford was last used by vehicles. They just drove in and the car stopped...ooops.

Obviously user error.

But I think it's pretty lame that a box housing some pretty pricey and very critical electronics isn't designed to resist water ingress under about 10 cm of water for 10-15 minutes. A Tupperware container is sealed better than that.

In any case the next time I drag someone out of the water I will know to be more insistent in suggesting they disconnect the batteries asap, and will from now on suggest they open up the computer or get an auto-electrician to do so before reconnecting them.

I used to have a Series 3 and now have an LC105 - neither with engine management - so have had no need to know about these little details for myself.
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Follow Up By: shade10 - Friday, Aug 17, 2007 at 08:40

Friday, Aug 17, 2007 at 08:40
best way to dry out a computer is to unplug battery, and pull computer out that is after the drowned vehicle is recovered, then grab a bottle of metho or isopropanol alchol and drown the stripped computer of its shell in alchol and make camp for night, then scrub with clean old tooth brush, and let dry.

I took a mp3 swimming christmas 2005 up at Inskip point, and i realised it was in my pocket, after pulling battery and dropping unit in clean water, it had being in the water for like 45mins with battery still in it, when i got back to my sisters place near Caloundra, i had already stripped the case off and dropped the whole lot into metho for like 3 days, and scrubbed it with an old toothbrush to get the corrosion off. Works fine after letting it dry for like 2 days.

Same principal with mobiles, except with the water, DROP STRAIGHT INTO ALCOHOL AND NOT INTO CLEAN WATER, REPEAT NOT INTO CLEAN WATER. ONLY ALCOHOL!!!!!

Sorry have to say it as i could be sued for any misleading information.
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Reply By: Alan H - Friday, Aug 17, 2007 at 10:00

Friday, Aug 17, 2007 at 10:00
Must have been more than 1 Disco drowned at Coppins lately as I was in a group that had to retrieve one which did exactly the same thing.
Didn't walk the water, took the wrong line and oh dear, it's stopped!
I think a bit of panic was involved when it tipped drivers side down.
Wouldn't start for about 20 mins. and then had no throttle but would creep back in reverse which allowed him to get into a position for towing to Marble Bar.
From there to the dealer in Karratha who confirmed a dead computer which could have been rescued if anyone had thought of removing it and letting it dry but after a couple of days that wouldn't work.
A Prado went through the same waterhole after a bloke had walked it but he said he knew the hole anyway and was aware of how to approach it.
Never saw any smoking computers so yours must have been a different rescue.
Alan.
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Follow Up By: cowpat - Friday, Aug 17, 2007 at 17:13

Friday, Aug 17, 2007 at 17:13
Yes it must have been a separate incident. There was only us and them. And yes I actually saw the smoke come out.

And you remind me of what I'd long forgotten - using the starter motor as Clayton's winch. I think it was a manual and so he could've cranked it out in reverse with the starter motor as the water had not entered the intake (he'd had a few goes at starting it by the time I was on the scene).
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