Black Wolf Turbo Set Up Time?
Submitted: Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 11:07
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Geoff1967
Hi, I hear mixed things about the Black Wold Turbo (and Turbo Lite) set up time.
The Oztent I currently own is literally 30 seconds or under (without pegs). Its time I get a new tent and I'm tossing up between an RV4 and a Turbo.
From the time you lift the bag out of your car, how long does a Black Wolf Turbo take to set up and attch the fly?
Lastly, with the fly attached, are the Black Wolfs totally waterproof including morning condensation?
Thanks in advance.
Reply By: Willykj - Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 11:26
Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 11:26
Hi Geoff,
I have had a Turbo tent since they came out. Have used it extensively - including 7 weeks to
Cape York & last year 3 months touring. Just yesterday came back from 3 weeks in outback NSW & SA.
We have been extremely happy with the Turbo tent. The initial reason we went that way rather then oz tent was it's length to store. The Turbo fits across the vehicle - we put it across behind the front seats.
We estimate about 3 minutes to erect. We put 4 corner pegs in then push the tent up. Then the fly over - it clips to the tent corners so the only additional work is 2 pegs & poles for the front cover on the standard fly.
Yes - the tent is absolutely waterproof. But keep in mind that any tent will have some condensation on occasions.
Willy
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Follow Up By: Geoff1967 - Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 11:46
Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 11:46
Hi, the Oztent doesnt get any condensation after you attach the fly.
Are you saying the Turbo can still get drips with the fly attached?
Thanks for the
feedback.
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Follow Up By: Willykj - Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 15:18
Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 15:18
No - do not get any drips at all. But in some weather conditions there is a little condensation - but that has never been a problem. Depends on your definition of "condensation".
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Follow Up By: Geoff1967 - Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 16:40
Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 16:40
My definition is waking up in
Hill End at 6.30am with ice-cold drips splashing on your face LOL
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Reply By: Member - cuffs (SA) - Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 11:29
Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 11:29
From the time you lift the bag out of your car, how long does a Black Wolf Turbo take to set up
(1 minute with 4 pegs in)
and attch the fly?
(10 minutes cause once the tent is up, I have beer before I throw fly over)
Whats your hurry?????????
The longest it took me to put it up including guide ropes out in a wind storm was under 10 minutes.
Completely water proof and condensation but you can get condensation on the inside if you breath to heavy Lol!
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Reply By: pt_nomad - Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 12:55
Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 12:55
Hi Geoff,
I currently have a OzTent Microfast Mi7 - takes me about 12mins to put up. Before buying the Mi7 I was looking at 30second OzTent. I watched a mate on several occaisons and decided the the '30 seconds' line is misleading. To have the tent erected and rigged with fly I thought was more like 10-15 min job. I will probably bein going to 2 turbo tents soon- billy lids are big enough for their own.
We erected one in the
shop - found that the kids can do it easily. I have read a review that claims the fly can be left secured for packing.
Another mate has a turbo lite, he suggest I get this version as the has a roof top vent to prevent condensation builup (it is nylon as opposed to canvas). I didnt get a chance to see this one go up as he started after me and was finished before I completed the job on the Microfast.
I thnk I'll still go the canvas for durability, but may install some top vents.
The claim on the Canvas is that you don't need the fly normally - but I think that is the same on the 30 second tent.
Paul.
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Reply By: Les B (Nth QLD) - Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 18:59
Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 18:59
We have the TurboLite 270 bought from
BCF about $600. It goes up with the fly fitted and 4 pegs in 3 minutes. We chose it over the Oztent because of the smaller package size.
Ours had small rainwater leaks at 2 corners and the storage pocket but sealer fixed them ok.
We also had an issue with dismantling when we pulled the centre strap down it tore the stitching after only 3 times.
BCF had the stitching redone for us in 3 days.
Overall we are happy with the Turbolite
Les
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 19:17
Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 19:17
I have yet to decide between the two, (for times when it's impractical to take the camper) but so far, I'm leaning towards the Oztent due to its more practical awning that extends between the tent and the vehicle.
I have visually inspected the Black Wolf Turbo and think that the awning is too small.
The awning would be our "living" area where you can still
cook, or sit under, etc. in inclement weather.
This coupled with the quick erection of the Oztent is my preference. Storage is not an issue as it would go "upstairs" on the roof rack.
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Reply By: Member - Kingsley N (SA) - Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 19:30
Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 19:30
We have just returned from the
Hay River and spent two weeks in the brand new Turbo 240. It is easy and quick to put up. Most nights in
the desert we did not put the fly on. It does attract condensation, whether the fly is on or not, if it is cold enough outside. I compared the condensation with a traditional canvas tourist tent on our trip and they had no condensation. A vent in the apex would help minimise condensation.
The major flaw we discovered with the turbo tent is that you must put the fly on to secure the tent in windy conditions. When it gets real windy, as it did one night in
Birdsville, the verandah has to be secured with extra ropes. We used the short ones supplied for the windows. Even that was not satisfactory and I finished up lowering the two poles to half height and banging extra pegs in. There is no way to batten down the verandah. A modification would be to roll the awning verandah and tie it back somehow. The current design catches the wind all too easily.
On the positive side, we liked the ease of use, folding and putting it into the bag is OK after a few practice runs (use plenty of pressure to squeeze the bundle down). The general standard of construction is excellent with strongly stitched and sealed seams, neat guy storage and strong poles. Just be wary in the wind!
Kingo
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