Oil in intake tubes 3lt GU

Submitted: Thursday, Aug 23, 2007 at 09:23
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I found dirt in my intake tubes, so started removing tubes to clean them. Cleaned the MAF while I was there (as you do) when I removed the tube from the turbo I found oil in the tube? So I took the discharge tube to intercooler off, & found oil in the tube. I checked the crank case breather line that plums into the intake for oil and it was dry. So my question is this a compressor seal leaking in the turbo (the engine is not blowing any smoke and running fine)? Has anyone seen this before. It is a GUIII 10/03. I would appreciate any input as I'm still in a 3 month honeymoon period with the dealership. Thanks in addvance for any help.
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Reply By: hl - Thursday, Aug 23, 2007 at 09:36

Thursday, Aug 23, 2007 at 09:36
It is very normal, they all do it.
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Follow Up By: Briza - Thursday, Aug 23, 2007 at 10:18

Thursday, Aug 23, 2007 at 10:18
Oh really I didn't realise that there would be oil in the intake system, can you tell me why please? Thanks
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Follow Up By: Snowy 3.0iTD - Thursday, Aug 23, 2007 at 10:44

Thursday, Aug 23, 2007 at 10:44
These days with environmental regs being what they are, the engine crank-case breather rather than exhausting under the engine bay to the road or wherever now is piped in to the intake, so that any oil vapours are burned in the engine. The downside is that you intake ends up oily, no real drama other than a bit unsightly.

Snowy
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Follow Up By: Briza - Thursday, Aug 23, 2007 at 10:53

Thursday, Aug 23, 2007 at 10:53
Thanks, Yeah the thing is that I checked the breather line & there was no oil in there (thats where I thought the oil would be coming from).
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Follow Up By: Snowy 3.0iTD - Thursday, Aug 23, 2007 at 11:09

Thursday, Aug 23, 2007 at 11:09
Sorry I shall have to read things more carefully next time. I have the same thing with mine 05/2003 build date, only a very slight amount of oil (not dripping) so I have not really worried about it, just assuming it was the breather. You aren't using an oiled foam filter?

The only other thing I can think of is just a theory and a bit technical, the diff and g-box breathers also discharge in to the air intake. The air gets compressed in the turbo now trying to recall back to my uni days compressing a gas/vapour mix will cause the vapour to become liquid, then it goes through the intercooler, cooling the air further decreasing the amount of moisture it can hold and causing the oil vapour to become liquid, just a theory.

Snowy
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Follow Up By: hl - Thursday, Aug 23, 2007 at 11:20

Thursday, Aug 23, 2007 at 11:20
Hi,
The reason I say it is normal is that mine does it, the GU2.8 I had did it and I sold that at 140,000k. First noticed the oil at 70,000k and was worried about it.
This pops up on various forums, whenever someone takes that hose off, it has oil in it, and they ask the same question. So I assume they all do it.
I am sure it comes from the breather, maybe a bit from the turbo seal. The real worry with it is further downstream in the inlet manifold, it combines with the soot from the EGR and makes a good mess when the k's build up.
But, then again, they all do that too, including Veedub diesels and any other engine that runs heavy EGR.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Peter 2 - Thursday, Aug 23, 2007 at 17:46

Thursday, Aug 23, 2007 at 17:46
Some oil in the intake and intercooler after the turbo is 'normal' as the engine oil is supplied under pressure to the turbo bearings from the engines oil system. As there are no seals as such just very fine tolerances then a very small amount of oil is blown/sucked into the airstream which will increase as the turbo bearings wear.
I've got a petrol turbo Volvo which has a drain plug on the bottom of the intercooler to enable it to be drained during servicing so it is obviously an expected thing.
With nearly 400k on the engine and about half that on the actual turbo it will collect about half a cupful every 40k and has done so consistently as long as I've had it over the last 250k.
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Follow Up By: Briza - Friday, Aug 24, 2007 at 08:36

Friday, Aug 24, 2007 at 08:36
Thanks guys for your input. It was much appreciated
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Reply By: Muzzgit [WA] - Friday, Aug 24, 2007 at 18:30

Friday, Aug 24, 2007 at 18:30
Not only is it very normal, but if you have a snorkel, put you hand near the inlet and you will feel the air moving in/out/in/out/in/out. As explained to me by a mechanic, little TD engines create very little vacuum at idle, so it may be possible the oil can go back thru the system.

Not only that, when you back off after giving it a boot full, I'm sure there is a minuscule amount of back pressure.
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