Sunset

Submitted: Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 at 09:40
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Page 5 CourierMail Sat 25/8/7 , As of the 14th of September no more watching the sunset over Ayers rock / Uluru with a Coldie in your hand unless you are at the AyersRock Resort , rules and regulation gone mad , and in my opinion blatant discrimination against those who happen to enjoy a drink at sunset.
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Reply By: DIO - Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 at 11:02

Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 at 11:02
Please excuse my ingnorance, but what is the significance of a 'drink at sunset'?
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Follow Up By: Axel [ the real one ] - Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 at 11:08

Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 at 11:08
No real significance , just that from the 14th you will not be able to drink any thing stronger than a cup of tea in the environs of Ayers rock ,
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Follow Up By: Member - Jackie M (QLD) - Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 at 18:15

Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 at 18:15
If you don't know by now there is no point anyone trying to explain it!!!!
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Follow Up By: Big Mike - Sunday, Aug 26, 2007 at 09:18

Sunday, Aug 26, 2007 at 09:18
Dio,
A bit of a tradition to watch the sunset with a chardy or to have a champagne breakfast for sunrise.
Personally, it doesn't worry me if I cant have a wine at sunset/sunrise. What worries me is the fact that I am being told what and where I can do something due to problems within communities. When the park was "given back" to the indigenous people, it was with certain provisions and those provisions are being eroded. Go out there and try and climb the rock nowdays, some days you might be lucky, otherdays it might be a whiff of a breeze so the rock is closed due to strong gusts, or there might be rain at Threeways so better close the rock just in case of rain. What happened to working with each other, there are determined points for sunset and sunrise viewing, why not make these consumption areas only. What next, banning the sale of alcohol in Alice Springs. Why dont they think about banning selling chrome spray paint to kids obviously off their faces. IMHO, knee jerk reaction by do gooders who have no idea of the coalface. Will get off my soapbox now.
Mike
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Reply By: Smudger - Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 at 11:58

Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 at 11:58
First reaction was, 'bloody thought police again'.
But I guess it's part of the solution to the area's booze problems, so I won't complain.
I like a red as much as anyone. When I thought about it, I found sunset at the Rock to be an intoxicating experience without the need for a drink. As long as I can sit and tell lies around the campfire with glass of shiraz (or green ginger wine) I'll be a happy camper.
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Follow Up By: Axel [ the real one ] - Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 at 12:36

Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 at 12:36
Smudger , that is the whole point , you wont be able to sit around your campfire with a glass of anything , it is discrimination against all just to 'protect' a few , if the relevant government was fair dinkum in trying to stamp out the booze problem then why will anybody with enough $$$ be able to stay and drink to their hearts content at the resort , black -white or brindle no one will be able to as you say" sit round the campfire with a glass of shiraz" , only if you pay megga $ to stay at the resort will you be able to enjoy your shiraz.
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Follow Up By: Andrew from Vivid Adventures - Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 at 12:58

Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 at 12:58
Nup - you got it wrong Axel.

They don't allow campfires in the park as it is.
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Follow Up By: Smudger - Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 at 13:00

Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 at 13:00
Not having read the acrticle in the Courier Mail, you've got detail that I don't have. But, in your original post you did infer that booze would be allowed at Ayers Rock Resort. The campground is part of the Resort. I reckon they'd have a hellava job stopping people from drinking in their caravans and tents.

Axel, aspects of this get up my nose too. However, there is a major problem up there caused by booze, and it would be discriminatory to ban only one section of the community from drinking in the area.
Besides, you're no allowed to sit and watch the sunset at Manly Beach with a bottle of red. There are scores of alchohol free zones in most Aussie Cities, mostly caused by white fellas bad drinking habits.

You and I will visit the Rock for a couple of days, once or twice in our life. Some have to live there with the problem, with no escape.
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Follow Up By: Axel [ the real one ] - Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 at 13:04

Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 at 13:04
Andrew , thats exactly what I said , "no one will be able to sit round a campfire with a glass of shiraz' , campfire or not you wont be able to drink any where unless you pay for the privledge.
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Follow Up By: Smudger - Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 at 13:06

Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 at 13:06
Andrew, when did they ban fires at Ayers rock resort campground? We had campfires for the 3 nights we were there in June. We had to ask for a fire bin, - a half 44 - which they delivered to our site. It was a magnet, coz it got down to minus 3 every night.
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Follow Up By: Axel [ the real one ] - Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 at 13:20

Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 at 13:20
Smudger + Andrew , No matter which way you toss it into the air it still comes down as discrimination , lock the tourist into a resort/campground where they can drink because of the $ they can pay and lock the other Australian out of the resort to deny them their legal right , I totally agree that sections of the community have a problem with over indugence of drink , black and white , but discrimination on a a racial basis leaves a very sour taste in the mouth , a blanket ban will in the end do more harm than good.
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Follow Up By: Andrew from Vivid Adventures - Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 at 15:25

Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 at 15:25
Yulara (the resort area) is not in the Park Smudger... They do not ban fires in the campground because the campground is not in the park... well, actually they do ban fires there in the summer.

They have fire places set up in the coach camp/kitchen area as well as in a few other spots around the place.

You can still sit around a campfire with a glass of shiraz in Yulara including in the campgrounds.
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Reply By: Andrew from Vivid Adventures - Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 at 12:56

Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 at 12:56
Just to clarify, you won't be able to drink in the Uluru K-J NP including at the sunset viewing area.

Yulara, which is not on NT Land Rights Act land - even though it is owned by indigenies, on the other hand is not a problem.

So, if you are in the camp ground, you can have a beer and enjoy what of the sunset you can see from there, and even going up to the lookout behind the camp ground should be fine for that.

I hope that helps
Andrew.
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Reply By: Gob & Denny - Monday, Aug 27, 2007 at 17:33

Monday, Aug 27, 2007 at 17:33
do what we did camp at the curtin springs and travel in and out was still cheaper than staying near the rock(but have done that also) and when the indigenous piss heads come around trying to get you to buy them grog (1 was a ranger and elder) tell them to piss off cause you get into trouble we did and he went

steve
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