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Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 28, 2007 at 16:30
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turbopete
What is the difference between the cheap k/mart oil and the more expensive
well known branded oils,I use the cheap stuff from kmart in an old fairlane and dont have a problem so far,but was wondering if it would harm my petrol 1999 toyota 4wd
Reply By: tvl - Tuesday, Aug 28, 2007 at 18:06
Tuesday, Aug 28, 2007 at 18:06
u cant'' HARM'' a toyota//
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Reply By: nowimnumberone - Tuesday, Aug 28, 2007 at 18:59
Tuesday, Aug 28, 2007 at 18:59
nothing if they meet the specs.
i havnt heard of the price of oil being $75 per barrel for good oil but the crap oil is $50 per barrel.
itsw all the same stuff
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Reply By: Exploder - Tuesday, Aug 28, 2007 at 19:02
Tuesday, Aug 28, 2007 at 19:02
Allot of it is re-Labelled Brand name oils that are the mid to Low quality bracket like ya GTX2 type oils as a example.
There is nothing wrong with it, but when it comes to Holding up over time or when the engine is pushed hard the oil will not hold up as-
well as say
Mobil 1 or something like that.
Like anything you get what you pay for, thou i would be cautions when using some No-name oil's as they may not meet the specifications of your engine.
Cheers.
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Reply By: donks1 - Tuesday, Aug 28, 2007 at 19:32
Tuesday, Aug 28, 2007 at 19:32
hi there
some of the really cheap no name oils are actually recycled oils
from workshops. obviously it is
well refined and cleaned but not as good as the good stuff
donks
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Reply By: Member - Kevin J (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 28, 2007 at 20:07
Tuesday, Aug 28, 2007 at 20:07
Every lubricating oil must meet a specification - SE/CD etc -and the handbook for your vehicle will set out what specification you should be using for that model - eg petrol or diesel.
You should be aware however that there are many variations on the theme. The quality of the base oil and the make up of the additive package used can produce an oil which just meets the requirements of the specifications or one that surpasses the basic requirements and then provides some additional benefits.
As one company used to say 'Oil;s ain't oils"
I personally use a product which I know will give me the best performance and I stick very closely to the service structure set out by the manufacturer. Two good reasons:
1. If I have a problem I can go back to the dealer and/or the oil supplier and fight for a claim. With good records I have a better than average chance of winning any claim.
2. If the engine is using the product for which it was designed then I should expect to get best performance.
Incidentally if you have a diesel and the oil is
bright and clean after say 5000 kms then look closely at the oil you are using as it may not be doing part of the job intended which is to hold the carbon residues in
suspension so that they are removed at the time of the oil change.
Don't claim to be an expert but 32 years in the oil business gave me some basic knowledge.
Kevin J i
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Follow Up By: turbopete - Thursday, Aug 30, 2007 at 16:31
Thursday, Aug 30, 2007 at 16:31
hi kevin (quote)" to hold the carbon residues in suspension"
does not the oil filter colllect the carbon residues u mention peter
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Reply By: Philip A - Tuesday, Aug 28, 2007 at 20:19
Tuesday, Aug 28, 2007 at 20:19
A brand name highly SAE rated oil costs what , say $18-20 ?Semi Synthetic Maybe $30
A cheapy costs what $12.
How often do you change? Lets say every 6 months or maybe a year.
How much a week is the difference? $8 for six months or 30 cents a week to $1 for a semi synthetic ( probably 50 cents as you can leave a long drain for a year..)
How much does an engine rebuild cost?
Regards Philip A
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Reply By: Ozboc - Wednesday, Aug 29, 2007 at 07:03
Wednesday, Aug 29, 2007 at 07:03
As one of the other Posters mentioned - the no name stuff is Recycled engine oil that is collected from w/shops all over Australia and if you have ever seen what they collect - you would maybe give it a wide birth as often other chemicals end up in the waste oils such as cleaning fluids and such, not to mention the waste oil from oil seperators that is full of dirt and sludge.
As for price - hows this for expensive - for my Honda Fireblade (Road motorcyle for those who don't know ) Costs me $100 for a 4 litre bottle of oil - for the bike i can not use normal oil you can buy from repco because of the fact motor and gear box uses the same oil & my bike revs out to 12 000 RPM ( yes i am in the higher rev range a lot )
So yes - oils brands and quality does count - if you only keep your vehicle for 12 months at a time - then use the cheap crap , and it will be someone else's problem - if you intend on keeping it for many trouble free years - get the good drop :)
Boc
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Follow Up By: Vince NSW - Wednesday, Aug 29, 2007 at 08:36
Wednesday, Aug 29, 2007 at 08:36
For all of you haveing a GO at recycled oil.
Have you ever seen crude oil. Dirty crap that comes out of the ground. I do this for a living. The BIG oil co use a % of recycled oils & put their own add pack into the base oil. Oil has to be recycled by Fed regulations so where do you think it all goes ?
I aggree that you get what you pay for, but only to a point & from then on it is just pure profit for the oil Co.
Vince
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Reply By: Steve63 - Wednesday, Aug 29, 2007 at 13:23
Wednesday, Aug 29, 2007 at 13:23
It's all oil plus additives (detergents etc). The key thing is that it is the correct spec for the use. Some additives are better than others. Each batch of oil is not exactly identical to other batches. This is not a fault it is just a natural part of any manufacturing process. So to a point you are paying for the addatives and the narrowness of the allowable specification of the product.
Steve
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Reply By: turbopete - Thursday, Aug 30, 2007 at 14:49
Thursday, Aug 30, 2007 at 14:49
KMart had a special on & I got Kmart brand 20W..50.. 6l for $13.5......Spec says API...sg/cd and says suitable for turbocharged/lpg and and 4wd diesel engines
Viscosity...17cst @100degc typical ( dont know what that means ) but besides saving money I absolutely object to giving the oil Co,s any more than they should get... and thanks to all of u who took the time to reply Peter
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