spare parts prices

Submitted: Thursday, Aug 30, 2007 at 22:22
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well we all know that with spares we are paying way to much
$25 for an oil filter
$18 for a fan belt
$1200 for a new head
etc etc
well today we had a musso with an idling problem and engine light coming on
we had to take it to the local musso dealer for a scan.
(we cant justify $600 for a plug to suit our computer)
they tell us the air flow meter is shot.
ok how much is a new one so we can let the customer know
(after we check a few more things)
we thinking its a musso(mercedes engine)$700ish
well it turns out our price is $2470
yup nearly two and a half grand.
a whole second hand musso is worth not much more and if it turns out the afm is shot and the customer dosnt really want to spend that money on a vehicle that hes already spent heaps on what does he do
give it away running bad or spend $2500+ then sell it
cheers
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Aug 30, 2007 at 23:07

Thursday, Aug 30, 2007 at 23:07
swap it for your laser..
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Reply By: Steve T - Thursday, Aug 30, 2007 at 23:08

Thursday, Aug 30, 2007 at 23:08
Try $130 for radiator relay for Patrol, still makes me cry.
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Reply By: Bilbo - Friday, Aug 31, 2007 at 00:56

Friday, Aug 31, 2007 at 00:56
As an ex-mechanic, I've said for the last twenty years that a car wrecking yard is a licence to print money. It's almost as good as a brothel,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Buy secondhand,,,,,,if ya can. The secret here is to buy a vehicle of a make 'n model of which many have been sold, hence many will have been wrecked, hence comparatively cheap parts can be had.

Musso? There's never been that many around. If new entrants to the car market want thier cars to sell, they need to adopt a reasonable parts pricing policy or lose market share.

Car makers don't make money out of selling cars, they make money out of servicing cars and selling spare parts - both at criminal prices. And the more technical the car is, then the more the parts cost and the more it costs to service it.

Who do you think keeps coming out with all these "Euro Emiission Rules" and "fuel economy regulations" and "exepensive synthetic oils"?? Car manufacturers, that's who. When yer working on "10 percent profit margin" - 10 percent of 100 dollars is more than 10 percent of 20 dollars - so sell the synthetic oil for 100 dollars a litre. Make the car harder to service or reapir and we make more money in labour costs. Make it more complex and technical to fix and we make more money in parts 'cos there's more to go wrong!

Simple stuff eh!! And we all fall for it.

Bilbo
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Reply By: Bilbo - Friday, Aug 31, 2007 at 00:56

Friday, Aug 31, 2007 at 00:56
As an ex-mechanic, I've said for the last twenty years that a car wrecking yard is a licence to print money. It's almost as good as a brothel,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Buy secondhand,,,,,,if ya can. The secret here is to buy a vehicle of a make 'n model of which many have been sold, hence many will have been wrecked, hence comparatively cheap parts can be had.

Musso? There's never been that many around. If new entrants to the car market want thier cars to sell, they need to adopt a reasonable parts pricing policy or lose market share.

Car makers don't make money out of selling cars, they make money out of servicing cars and selling spare parts - both at criminal prices. And the more technical the car is, then the more the parts cost and the more it costs to service it.

Who do you think keeps coming out with all these "Euro Emiission Rules" and "fuel economy regulations" and "exepensive synthetic oils"?? Car manufacturers, that's who. When yer working on "10 percent profit margin" - 10 percent of 100 dollars is more than 10 percent of 20 dollars - so sell the synthetic oil for 100 dollars a litre. Make the car harder to service or reapir and we make more money in labour costs. Make it more complex and technical to fix and we make more money in parts 'cos there's more to go wrong!

Simple stuff eh!! And we all fall for it.

Bilbo
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Reply By: Robnicko - Friday, Aug 31, 2007 at 11:00

Friday, Aug 31, 2007 at 11:00
Nowimnumberone

When my starter motor for my 95 80series cruiser jammed on and cooked itself i was quoted $880 + tax from Toyota.
I contacted Denso who make them for Toyota and was given the following choice
$225 for one with a Denso sticker
$600 odd for one with the Toyota part number sticker.

Both the same part. Just one has a expensive sticker attached to it.

No guessing which one I got

Rob
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Reply By: AdrianLR (VIC) - Friday, Aug 31, 2007 at 12:24

Friday, Aug 31, 2007 at 12:24
In the Melbourne Age this week there was a comment that Toyota has significantly reduced the prices of Echo spares to reduce the large numbers being written off after prangs!
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Reply By: V64Runner - Friday, Aug 31, 2007 at 12:48

Friday, Aug 31, 2007 at 12:48
No wonder Toyota`s catch cry is : "Oh what a feeling ! " when they empty your wallet. In my early days when working in the motor trade, a spark plug cost 50 cents, engine oil was about $3.00 for five litres etc etc. My 4Runner did the sealed bearing in the viscous fan hub. According to Auto Masters here in Beldon/Belridge a new housing cost $1660 !! The poor manager was outraged at the price, that he told Toyota to shove it and went ahead and fitted a large thermo electric fan , and its worked perfectly for the past two years , without the noise coming from the viscous fan ! The motor industry is a law unto itself !
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Reply By: Axel [ the real one ] - Friday, Aug 31, 2007 at 13:46

Friday, Aug 31, 2007 at 13:46
I remember years ago ,sometime in the 70s reading an article put out by the NRMA on spare parts pricing , it had the figures based on a new Holden that at the time retailed for around $5000.oo , to build the same vehicle from spare parts would have cost in the vicinity of $100,000.oo not including labour costs ,,,,, storage / retrieval / scarcity /commonality ect all play apart in making a part that cost 20 cents to manufacture into a part costing $20+ .
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Follow Up By: Pete and Lez - Friday, Aug 31, 2007 at 20:27

Friday, Aug 31, 2007 at 20:27
I have worked in the automotive component industry for 20yrs, and sorting out and despatching spare parts orders for all major car companies in Australia. TRUST ME, when you see all the BUL....T involved in making, packing, storing, picking and despatching, and transporting parts I can certainly see how they can turn a .20c part into $20.00 And that is just at our end. When it gets to the car company it goes through a similar cycle all over again to get to the spare parts division at the dealer. Labour and transport are the big killers.
Cheers Peter and Lez
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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Friday, Aug 31, 2007 at 14:28

Friday, Aug 31, 2007 at 14:28
Wasn't it old Henry Ford who said something like, "I will give you the car for nothing if you buy the parts off me for its working life"??

By the way Jim what did your customer say to those prices and what did he do?
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Follow Up By: nowimnumberone - Saturday, Sep 01, 2007 at 14:44

Saturday, Sep 01, 2007 at 14:44
gday john
we havnt spoke to the customer yet hes away for a cpl of weeks.
we also waiting for wiring diagrams to test ecu and air flow meter.
he will probly want to get rid of it as it also needs a head job as well
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Saturday, Sep 01, 2007 at 15:09

Saturday, Sep 01, 2007 at 15:09
Yeah well we all need a head job :-)

Cheers Jim
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Reply By: Member - John W (VIC) - Friday, Aug 31, 2007 at 19:19

Friday, Aug 31, 2007 at 19:19
nowinnumberone

Musso's are a bosch system, read the part number on the air flow meter and contact Bosch or Repco, I got one 2 years ago through Repco $700.00 approx, I still have it and will sell if part number the same, if you are interested email me, johnauto at vic dot chariot dot net dot au

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Follow Up By: nowimnumberone - Saturday, Sep 01, 2007 at 14:44

Saturday, Sep 01, 2007 at 14:44
thanks john ill certainly let him know when we see him hes gone away for a cpl of weeks
cheers
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Reply By: Andrew-rodeo - Friday, Aug 31, 2007 at 23:04

Friday, Aug 31, 2007 at 23:04
Have you thought about aftermarket? Being a Mercedes engine in should be a bosch unit, and shouldn't be to hard to find.
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Follow Up By: nowimnumberone - Saturday, Sep 01, 2007 at 14:45

Saturday, Sep 01, 2007 at 14:45
we will work that out with the customer
he also needs the head done so not sure what he will want to do
cheers
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Reply By: Andrew from Vivid Adventures - Saturday, Sep 01, 2007 at 17:22

Saturday, Sep 01, 2007 at 17:22
know the feeling.

SWMBO has an Astra - this is a case of engineered obscelence... it is a 2001 with 78ks - should be just run in.

Instead I've been up for $800 worth of engine mount repairs.
$1,160 for both rear door window winder assemblies that died young.
$1,100 for brakes including new rotors - rotors were so thin they couldn't be machines
and now I am holding out with Holden to get them to fix:
$400 for replacement idle pulley tensioner assembly, and
$1,200 for a/c compressor, hi/lo pressure switch, receiver drier/filter assembly!

I got jack of the situation and called RAA Technical Dept who told me they get 10-15 complaints a week on Astras and Vectras, and that they are the most expensive car in running costs bar none!

Cheers
Andrew.
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