3Ltr TD Patrol Starting "knock"
Submitted: Sunday, Sep 02, 2007 at 19:04
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3.0turbob
Hello All,
Just lately, every now and then when I start the Patrol (manual 3ltr turbo diesel) there is a rather loud "knock" for about a second or 2, (maybe 3-4 rvolutions of the engine) Sounds a bit like an exhaust knocking against the chassis or similar. It doesn't do it all the time and seems to be more when the engine is warm. I've had a
check underneath and the exhaust doesn't seem to be loose.Apart from that it's running perfectly, plenty of power, with no other problems. (131,000 ks Oct. 2001 model). Any ideas would be appreciated.
Thanks in advence,
Rob
Reply By: gompy - Sunday, Sep 02, 2007 at 21:10
Sunday, Sep 02, 2007 at 21:10
Don't start a thread like that, all the ZD30 knockers will out in force!!
time bomb, hand granade, get rid of it, buy a 4.2 etc etc, BORING!
Just go to the Patrol 4X4
forum, at least you get a proper answer.
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Sunday, Sep 02, 2007 at 21:52
Sunday, Sep 02, 2007 at 21:52
Gompy,
Even on the Patrol
forum (of which I am also a member), you will find that the members are not scared to face up to the fact that these bloody motors (ie: the ZD30) are a real disappointment.
Okay, I know that for every one that's gone bang, there are probably 5 that haven't........... still not real good odds as far as I'm concerned.
I'd like to have a $ for every thread that has started with words like: "My 3L Patrol has just blown up and when I did a Google search I find that this has happened before.....Jeez I wish I'd known about this problem before I bought the bloody thing".....etc etc
It is a fact of life and all the cussing in the world isn't going to change the fact that these highly strung motors just can't hack it long term.......
Sorry to rain on your parade.......
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Monday, Sep 03, 2007 at 11:13
Monday, Sep 03, 2007 at 11:13
and what years are going bang? 2000/1. It's not all of them. The people that seem to be disappointed in them are the ones that haven't owned one.
Leroy
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Sep 03, 2007 at 13:26
Monday, Sep 03, 2007 at 13:26
even 2006 models are going bang ...
>> The people that seem to be disappointed in them are the ones that haven't owned one.
those people who havent owned one are known as smart people.
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Monday, Sep 03, 2007 at 14:38
Monday, Sep 03, 2007 at 14:38
do you have a link to posts?
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Follow Up By: Blaze - Monday, Sep 03, 2007 at 23:14
Monday, Sep 03, 2007 at 23:14
Guys I love sitting back watching this everytime it raised its head. Having owned a Nissan about 10years ago and if I wanted a large 4X4 I consider the Nissan as the best vehicle but not with a bloody 3ltr in it. I wouldn't even consider one if the failures were half what I have seen also including Navara's.
The thing that I am dumb founded by is the owners who just prefer to bury their heads in the sand and say there isn't a problem.
If we put it in context that for an example you read verywhere that Brand X TV's had failures most people wouldn't buy one...?????
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Follow Up By: Brew34.5(SA) - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 06:24
Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 06:24
Blaze, thats just human nature.(the head in the sand stuff)
Leroy i was following a 2005/6 series 4 and watched it implode. No link sorry.............just a first hand account.
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 14:37
Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 14:37
implode?
–verb (used without object) 1. to burst inward (opposed to explode).
Can you be a little more specific? If you saw smoke it could of been a turbo. Or maybe a stuck egr.
Leroy
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Follow Up By: Brew34.5(SA) - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 17:50
Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 17:50
I love it when people drag out a meaning from a dictionary to remind me of my lack of knowledge of the English language.
Ok there was smoke everywhere and oil all over the road. I'm not sure what happened to it but it didn't look good.
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Follow Up By: Blaze - Wednesday, Sep 05, 2007 at 00:05
Wednesday, Sep 05, 2007 at 00:05
Brew basically your saying it was Stu**ed, caput, bu**ered, no longer maka Neeessan mova....
I think I understand, it imploded to the stage that the motor blew up, it had in fact blown up on the side of the road and the driver wasn't a happy camper.....
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Reply By: gompy - Sunday, Sep 02, 2007 at 21:10
Sunday, Sep 02, 2007 at 21:10
Don't start a thread like that, all the ZD30 knockers will out in force!!
time bomb, hand granade, get rid of it, buy a 4.2 etc etc, BORING!
Just go to the Patrol 4X4
forum, at least you get a proper answer.
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Reply By: Member - 'Lucy' - Sunday, Sep 02, 2007 at 21:58
Sunday, Sep 02, 2007 at 21:58
Gompy
I would never ever dare question the veracity and/or the credibility and competence of members Roachie, Brew and Willem in relation to all things Nissan.
Being a Toyota man through and through I don't even know what this ZD30 thing is, but it sure doesn't sound too good.
I suppose thats why all Nissan owners have that super duper Road Side assist package that the RAC in each State comes out with - so that they can get recovered from anywhere if necessary.
Good luck with it Rob and if it happens ,
well, we all know that Chit happens and just treat it as a 'life experience'
Happy fathers day all
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Follow Up By: 3.0turbob - Monday, Sep 03, 2007 at 09:40
Monday, Sep 03, 2007 at 09:40
Thanks 'Lucy',
I'm
well aware of the problems with some of these motors and have been reading all the comments on this
forum for a few years now. Being a series III I had hoped that these problems had been sorted by that model. As I said it does it only sometimes and at all other times it runs beautifully. I've had the vehicle for just over 4 years and really like it. I'll speak with a diesel mechanic and try and find an answer.
Rob
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Monday, Sep 03, 2007 at 11:16
Monday, Sep 03, 2007 at 11:16
Rob, You have a very early series 3 and there appears to be a bit of overlap with unrevised engine being carried over/used from the series 2.
Leroy
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Reply By: goingplatinumcomau - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 04:43
Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 04:43
This was in the Paper.
"I recently purchased a a 3 Litre Diesel Patrol. The vehicle was purchased from a car yard and I had a pre inspection. Last week, on returning from the long weekend the vehicle stated to blow heavy smoke. I immediately switched the vehicle off and pulled over to the side of the road. Yep it was a tow truck job.
The statutory warranty had expired by 400 km. I put the vehicle in for repair to find out that I had blown a piston in number 4 pot and number 2 had a hole in it.
I have since been advised that this problem is common place for the 2000 model 3L Diesel and this expensive repair is carried out regularly.
I am disappointed that Nissan are not interested and will only discuss the matter if I have the full service history of Nissan dealer service. I did not own the vehicle prior to 3 months ago. My question being if Nissan was aware of a
well documented problem why did they not recall the vehicle and replace the problem components. I own a Nissan X-Trail as
well from new. I now have serious concerns related to Nissan customer service and care for their customers. This will influence future purchases. Let this be a warning to all who buy a 2000 3 Litre Diesel Patrol to have the head removed and the pistons checked prior to purchase it will save you around $6000. Very disgruntled Nissan customer" P
Bates, Mooroolbark VIC 0407 131119
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Follow Up By: Member - Captain (WA) - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 14:14
Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 14:14
Couldn't agree more.
While I believe the series III and later models are now
well sorted, the real issue lies with Nissan Australia's poor attitude, no - total disdain, to customers.
Any vehicle can have faults and thats why we have warranty. The problem is with Nissan is that you have to fight tooth and nail for what are blatant warranty items - and next to impossible for anything thats a
grey area. Nissan Australia still cannot explain why the series II 3.0TD engine was recalled in Europe but only a new dip stick given in Australia!
I plan to shortly buy a new 4WD and while I would otherwise have the Nissan 3.0TD on my shortlist, I won't buy any Nissan now because of Nissan Australia's attitude to their customers. I have found the dealers on the whole to be fine, its Nissan Australia itsef.
Cheers
Captain
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 14:34
Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 14:34
"I plan to shortly buy a new 4WD and while I would otherwise have the Nissan 3.0TD on my shortlist, I won't buy any Nissan now because of Nissan Australia's attitude to their customers. I have found the dealers on the whole to be fine, its Nissan Australia itsef."
hear hear! I reckon you won't be the only one. It doesn't matter what sort of warrantly claim, how little or small, the dealer has to get the ok from HQ. This often means a return trip to the dealer to get the prob. rectified once it's identified.
Leroy
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Follow Up By: goingplatinumcomau - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 14:38
Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 14:38
Good on you Captain.
Make the internet work for the People if anyone is thinking of buying a Nissan and they do a Google on Nissan 4 wd diesel and all they find is a Ton of negative about Nissan they Nissan may finally wake to themselves.
The Problem see is that anyone who has brought one of the Heaps Of Pox doe's not want any Negative about them as they are hoping to get something back when the TRY to sell them.
A quick call to Any Vehicle Auction House will put those fears to rest as the Auction house will tell you Point Blank there Worthless NO ONE WANTS THEM.
I feel sorry for people have brought them and feel Secure in driving them to the local
shop as they Blow Up let alone a trip anywhere.
Regards
John
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