"Smart" Battery Chargers

Submitted: Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 16:26
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I've had a look at the following chargers:

1. CTEK Multi XS 7000 (Sweden).
2. Durst Smart Charge (Australian).

Are there any other products you would recommend (to maintain charge in a deep cycle battery when not in use)?

Regards

Kim
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Reply By: Geoff M (QLD) - Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 17:08

Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 17:08
Can't help with "other products" bit, but can give a positive experience for the XS7000. Had one for almost 3 years now and no problems and gets used a LOT.

Geoff
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Follow Up By: Member - Kim M (VIC) - Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 17:39

Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 17:39
Thanks Geoff.

As an aside, how has the "Toshiba Satellite running Track Ranger" unit worked out for you?

I have the same set up, running off a satellite mouse (new).

Scratching my head at the moment trying to figure out how to secure the Lap top over rough ground.

Regards

Kim
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Follow Up By: Geoff M (QLD) - Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 18:45

Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 18:45
Hi Kim,
After a few teething problems that were the fault of Vista & Toshiba, everything is working great. I can't say enough for the folks at Tech Support for TrackRanger... they were/are brilliant.

I use a Bluetooth mouse with a 30 hr battery that's about the size of a matchbox and just sits in the windscreen demister vent. Sure nice not to have any wires laying all over the dash.

Got the "security over rough ground" problem solved ........ "if you drop this thing it'll be curtains for ya" ..... I've told SWMBO.

Geoff
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Follow Up By: Member - Kim M (VIC) - Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 19:22

Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 19:22
Geoff

I had the same problems with Vista and now trying to get my head around TrackRanger. But I do agree, Trevor is very helpfull.

Since I don't have a SWMBO, I'll have to train the damn dog to cradle the lap top on her lap. LOL

Regards

Kim
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Follow Up By: Hillbilly123 - Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 at 18:14

Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 at 18:14
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Reply By: Mainey (WA) - Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 18:37

Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 18:37
To "maintain" full charge in a Deep Cycle battery just connect up a 5 Watt solar panel and sit the panel in the sun.
Costs nothing to run and is mistake proof. (no regulator)

A benefit is you can take it away with you in the bush and have the same charge going into either your Crank battery or DC battery.

To "re-charge" the DC use a larger Solar panel & regulator.
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Follow Up By: Member - Kim M (VIC) - Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 19:00

Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 19:00
Thanks Mainey

I already have a Solar Panel for extended trips in the bush. The Smart Charger will be used to maintain a battery in the garage.

Regards

Kim
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Follow Up By: Mainey (WA) - Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 20:30

Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 20:30
To "maintain" the DC battery via 240v use a 3 x stage charger that is suitable for your battery now, and for the new one you may use in the future.

The 3 x stage charger can be left attached 24/7 if it's switchable between say, SLA, Gell &/or Wetcell battery etc.
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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian (SA) - Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 18:44

Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 18:44
I bought a Power Saver 25A, 3 stage smart charger - the blue one - (from Derek - he advertises on this site) - far as I can see Durst just put a sticker on the one seen on their site. Check pricing here and there - Durst were "right up there" far as I recall.
The charger runs well for me - you can choose various voltages and nominate wet or gel batteries - the only snag is that the thermal cutout will turn it off within a few minutes, when you you are charging in hot weather (often when you need it the most, for fridge backup). Even in the shade, if the ambient is in the mid 30's, it'll cut out quite soon - quite a bit of heat generated in the first of the charge stages - the heat sinks on the side can't cope in that weather.
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Follow Up By: Peter McG (Member, Melbourne) - Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 19:07

Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 19:07
Check out the Novasmic website - they have the Durst charger way cheaper than anyone else.

Peter
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Follow Up By: Derek from Affordable Batteries & Radiators - Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 19:44

Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 19:44
Hi Peter

Similar looking to the Durst units but note they are not Durst units. You will receive a yellow unit made by Power-saver but not backed by Durst Australian warranty.

Regards

Derek.
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Follow Up By: Member - Kim M (VIC) - Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 20:52

Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 20:52
Derek

What would recommend?

Regards

Kim
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Follow Up By: Derek from Affordable Batteries & Radiators - Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 21:12

Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 21:12
Hi Kim

The Durst 15A charger is fine and cycles down to 0.30 amps on float. (Made in China)

The Sidewinder icb-1215 15A charger is fine and cycles down to 0.32 amps on float. (Made in China)

The Ctek XS7000 or XS 15000 is fine both cycle down to around 0.30 amps on float. (Made in China)

Price and budget would be your deciding factor. I no longer stock Ctek as they are over priced for a Chinese product and have removed them from my website.

Regards

Derek.
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Follow Up By: Member - Kim M (VIC) - Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 22:23

Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 22:23
Derek

I'll give you a call next week.

Many thanks.

Regards

Kim
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Reply By: Mike Harding - Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 19:56

Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 19:56
Hi Kim

To maintain a 12V lead acid battery in a storage situation any constant voltage power supply at 13V8 with a current capability of 500mA or more will do the job. I'll have a look around and see if I can find something suitable for you. A smart charger at $X00 is serious overkill for battery maintenance.

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Member - Kim M (VIC) - Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 21:05

Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 21:05
Mike

Don't worry about Smart Chargers. I need you around here to show me how TrackRanger works!

The bottle of white wine is still in the frig....

Did you have a good trip with the kids?

Regards

Kim
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Reply By: furph - Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 20:03

Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 20:03
This system will get a rasberry because its too low tech!

What I do is use a conventional 3a./240v. charger connected to the mains via a 24hr. programmable timer.

If the battery is in good nick, fairly full charge to start with, set the timer for about 1hr./day.

I have recently done this with my two "home" vehicles whilst we were away for 4 months over winter (left connected to the vehicles for alarms/clock etc.). Came home to find batteries fully charged, ready to go.

Works well for me. furph.
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Follow Up By: disco1942 - Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 22:45

Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 22:45
Maintenance includes bringing your battery up to full charge after it has been used. Your idea will not do this efficiently - you need a proper 3 stage charger to do that if you do not want to risk buggering it.

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Reply By: Nick R (VIC) - Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 21:03

Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 21:03
Like Mike said, the 7000 is overkill, I have the 3600 which does fine for me for a similar application, Incidentally I know a bloke who runs a bit of machinery, once the season is over he removes the batteries from all of them and links them together on a 3600 ctek....
I think the 3600 can easily do what you ask
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Follow Up By: Member - Kim M (VIC) - Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 21:13

Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 21:13
Nick

Thanks for that.

Looking at the brochure, your probably right.

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Kim
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Reply By: Bilbo - Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 21:39

Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 21:39
Hmmmm,,,,,,,,,,,always something to be gleaned on this site whereever one looks.

I'm about to fit a small rate 240/12 volt charger into the Chevissan and the comments about "high temperature cut outs" have made me have another think about where to place it.

Good one, thanks,

Bilbo

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Follow Up By: Member - Kim M (VIC) - Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 22:17

Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 22:17
Bilbo

Yes, it's interesting.

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Kim
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