Connie Sue Hwy in late March early April

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Evening all. Having just watched Len Beadell's latest DVD it stirred the blood a bit and got me dreaming. Would like to do the Connie from Cocklebiddy to Warburton. Take about 8 - 9 for the round trip from Perth.

Easter next year is late March so for work and holidays etc it's a good time. BUT - what would be the conditions of the environment at that time of year. To hot, to many flies, track to rough, etc etc.

Car is very capable of doing the terrain and distance.

Very early days and other than looked at the map, and Googled for info haven't thought much further.

BTW if anybody wants to join me your more than welcome?

Thanks in advance.
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Reply By: equinox - Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 at 00:06

Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 at 00:06
March is probably a bit early but it depends.

Depends on how many rain bearing depressions are caused by the cyclones coming down the coast.

Too early to predict!!

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Follow Up By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 at 00:27

Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 at 00:27
Nice Gnamma hole. Thanks for that I thought that may be the case but hopefully knowing the audience of this forum somebody may of traversed this area at the time of year I'm thinking of. I will be in the Warburton area in early July covering a portion of the Gt Vic Desert southwards between the Connie and Anne B but would like to do a larger trip earlier in the year if at all posssible.

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Reply By: Willem - Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 at 04:10

Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 at 04:10
Duncan

Agree with Equinox. Depends on rain in the area in late March.

Cocklebiddy to Warburton via Rawlinna is pretty flat country with a few rises here and there. The track is corrugated for long stretches but as with most things, because it is there, it is a Must Do...lol

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Follow Up By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 at 09:18

Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 at 09:18
Thanks Willem, rain in that area at the end of Summer early Autumn is something I wouldn't normally of considered. Looks like I'll have to check weather history for the area with the B.O.M.

On the off chance that it does rain what track conditions and possible flooding would I/we be expecting to find?
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Follow Up By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 at 09:37

Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 at 09:37
Willem one other question if I may? With respect to tyres, would you consider that my usual BFG A/T's would be adequate or should I put on my set of 14ply rag tyres on the split rims?
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Follow Up By: Willem - Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 at 16:34

Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 at 16:34
Duncan

Your BFG's will be fine

Equinox neglected to say that he had a little life-threatening escapade on the Connie Sue in the rain a while ago. If it does rain or has rained then ponded water might be your only problem. But I would not worry about it being wet. If it has rained then it dries off pretty quickly as the temps are still warm around the end of March.

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Follow Up By: equinox - Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 at 19:52

Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 at 19:52
You'll never let me live that down will you Willem? :)))

Duncan - I went through early January 2006 and the area (Southern Connie Sue) already had more than half the annual rainfall in the first 2 days of the year.

There were many, many puddles of water, some kilometres long. Take it from me though, the water is not the problem, it is the mud either side of the track that is dangerous. When driven over, the mud can suck your tyres in and send the vehicle in a direction that is not the one you wish to take.

I've put a picture of the resulting damage on my rig page. (I can't seem to be able to load it here).

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Follow Up By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 at 20:11

Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 at 20:11
Ouch that's got to of hurt!
Thanks for the feedback guys. I think if I do the trip it will be later in the year. Had one person so far say they are interested in joining me but April/May so I'll have to see.

Thanks again.
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Thursday, Sep 13, 2007 at 14:28

Thursday, Sep 13, 2007 at 14:28
Hi Duncan

We just got back from a trip down the CS, the top section from Warburton to Neale Junction is an outback track, there is some corrugations but OK. there are many good sites to see along the track and off the track (take your time) after Neale Junction the track has been Graded and is like a major dirt road (but there is a lot of wood on the road so keep speeds low).

When the road meets the Tjuntjuntjarra Community road at the shed and tank, it becomes the worst bull dusted road I have ever traveled, in some places it's up to 40 meters wide for a k or 2 and around 8 to 10 inches deep in places (rip the steering wheel out off your hands) it was coming over the bonnet in waves. 70 odd k of this, unbelievable.

this road goes west to meet up with the cable haul road, CS then continues of to become two wheel tracks through the station country off western edge off the Nullarbor Plains..

They have found precious metals in the Western Desert and have started mining. have heard since they are boring for water to allow from the road to be make stable and also the Connie Sue is to be upgraded also...

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Reply By: Richard Kovac - Thursday, Sep 13, 2007 at 14:30

Thursday, Sep 13, 2007 at 14:30
Sorry Duncan

replied in the wrong place, please read in Willem post follow up

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Follow Up By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Thursday, Sep 13, 2007 at 20:52

Thursday, Sep 13, 2007 at 20:52
Thanks very much Richard. It will be a shame to see the area potentially ruined by mining. Suppose the up side will be possibly better track conditions and I see the benefits and also the down side with that happening.

I'll have 6 weeks leave still owing next year and I'm committed for 2 weeks in late June early July to doing a tag-along into to Gt Vic Desert, I also want to be able to be involved with the Aus Safari so if I'm lucky I may be able to link all 3 and have a nice long holiday.

WRT to bull dust I was very much involved with the so called Perth Hills fire and the sector I was in charge of for a while was so deep in bull dust from all the fire vehicle traffic that walking the track caused your boots to be sucked off. Most bizarre feeling.
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