Caravan fridges

Submitted: Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 22:17
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There was quite a bit of discussion a while back of poorly operating caravan fridges. Today I decided to put a fan below the coils to assist the airflow.Well, there in front was the gas flue pipe vented into the cavity with the fridge and not connected to the outside vent hole. Wondered why it was poor on gas too. Only really operated well on 240V. Still fitted the fan as the fridge was out and will also fill the area around the fridge with insulation. Also adding extra heavy wiring to the fridge for 12V operation - the original was too small - only 9V at the fridge. Any wonder it was not operating correctly. Pity it's out of warranty. And yes, I've had it from new and the dealer assured me it was normal operation. He gets all testy if there is any query which he takes as personal criticism. Enough ranting, but another one who knows little about the products he sells.
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Reply By: joc45 - Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 00:34

Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 00:34
I chuckled when I read your posting!
Years ago, I was issued with a work caravan for a few months, made by a well-known Vic caravan mfr (at the time). The fridge had been installed quite contrary to the fridge manual's recommendation, with virtually no ventilation, so I removed a metal cover off the top to help it along. I always wondered why it wouldn't work off 240v, when one day, I pulled the fridge out to fix a gas burner problem, and found the 240v cord just coiled up under the fridge, not connected to anything, coz there was no wiring to the fridge. Managed to rig an extension cord under the caravan (not really legal) and eventually had a fridge that worked off both gas and 240v.
How do they get away with it?
cheers,
Gerry
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Reply By: Wizard1 - Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 09:46

Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 09:46
Had constant cooling problems in high ambient temp. Read all the advice on how the fridge should be setup (ventilation, etc). I fitted a couple of 12V fans a few years ago above the coils. The plan was to force the hot air, which rises.

Well I had a closer look at the pathetic attempt by Jayco to insulate and fit the hot air baffle. After careful study of the Dometic fitting instructions I decided that perhaps the Jayco job was less that satisfactory.


"9.2 VENTILATION
Ventilation is one of the requirements for proper cooling
unit operation. The coach vent system must be able to
provide a way to direct the hot air, produced by the action
of the cooling unit, out away from the installation of the
refrigerator. The refrigerator extracts heat from the interior
of the refrigerator cabinet and dissipates the heat out
through the vent system. In a proper installation there
should be zero (0”) clearance surrounding the sides and
top of the refrigerator to achieve proper air flow. All
potential dead air pockets should be blocked or baffled to
ensure that heat won’t be trapped in these spaces and
reduce efficiency. In addition, the cooling unit should be
at least one inch (1”) from the nearest surface made of
combustible material."

The space between the fridge and cabinet sides was less than 10mm on either side, no way I could get any insulation in there unless I used cigarette paper. But that seems to be appropriate according to Dometic.

The top baffle had a gap large enough to get my arm in and check for insulation, of which there was none.

So a bit of insulbat went on top and the baffle refitted so there was next to no gap to allow hot air to flow over the top.

We'll see how it goes.
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Reply By: Member No 1- Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 09:55

Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 09:55
inferior material installation is and are not warranty problems.....it is "not fit for purpose" and as such is much the same as recall on a car etc ...it needs fixing cos the manufacture of it has been stuffed up

ie if say the caravan was 3 yrs old or even 5 and i was original owner I'd be back there immediately asking...no no no Demanding it be corrected.....
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Reply By: Member - GeeTee (NT) - Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 17:51

Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 17:51
I had a post a little while back about this subject. Quite a few answers of varying points of view.

Jayco Freedom pop top 2002 model.

Here is what I did !
Disconnected 12volt connection, gas connection and unplugged the 240v lead
Pulled the fridge out from the enclosure and tipped it upside down a couple of times then left it upside down for about and hour. Put it back in.( up the correct way of course !)
Made a baffle from a piece of colourbond to direct the hot air outwards and not into the space above the fridge. Screwed this in place. Sealed the remaining gaps at the top with foil duct tape.
Installed the fan I had previously in the bottom of the rear of the fridge at the top in the direction to suck the air from the baffle. I cable tied it to the outer grill and left enough wire to be able to remove it out of the way in the future.

The fridge has never performed better and had to keep turning it down (towards "1") to stop freezing things. Spent June -Aug between here (Darwin) and Perth so there were some pretty hot days.

I did a visiting friends van (Paramount Delta) on the weekend and his is performing great now. Did not have to do the upside down bit with his.

Hope this helps.
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Follow Up By: Member - GeeTee (NT) - Tuesday, Sep 18, 2007 at 08:02

Tuesday, Sep 18, 2007 at 08:02
Forgot to mention when I bought the van I ran a cable direct from the 12v in point on the fridge to the tow bar, used a 50A anderson plug to go via fuse to the second battery in the vehicle. I used heavy duty speaker wire (clear covering) from a popular electronics supplier. Minimum volt drop.
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Reply By: Member Graeme - NAFTY 66 - Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 20:35

Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 20:35
Hi Longtooth, with regards to the extra heavy wiring to the fridge, any advice on what size/brand of wire should be used.

I have the same issue with my fridge.

Thanks

Graeme
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Follow Up By: Member - Longtooth (SA) - Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 22:06

Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 22:06
G'day Graeme,

At the risk of incurring the wrath of the purists out there, I had a roll of Narva 50A cable in the shed. Used that. It is more than adequate for the purpose and now there is 12V at the fridge.

Be aware that the 50A cable is not carrying capacity, but I believe it is what the cable will carry before meltdown. However it is enough for the fridge.

Longtooth
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