CLUTCH getting fitted this week BUT WHICH ONE
Submitted: Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 21:58
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O.K does it matter or not which kind off clutch you get fitted as in normal or heavy duty clutch,willl be doing a little 4wding and towing the camper trailer on trips so what do people recommened i have a quote all ready from a high profile clutch fitter here in town at $730 every thing suppled and fitted but i'm worryed that might only mean that it's the cheapeast clutch kit fitted and it wo'nt last very long,so can same one let me know if it's all going to be o.k i've been burt once i just do'nt want it to happen agaIn.cheer's GREENDOG
Reply By: long haired nomad - Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 22:11
Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 22:11
I had a clutch fitted from a
well known brake and clutch mob in my last hilux and only got 35,000km from it. In this hilux i had a toyota one fitted and its still going strong after 300,000km. If i was you id go a genuine one.
Cheers
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Reply By: GerryP - Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 22:42
Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 22:42
Hi Greendog,
Other than genuine, the only other one I would go for is a Daikin. In fact, I put a Daikin in my 105 cruiser to eliminate the dreaded Landcruiser clutch shudder and have so far been quite impressed - no shudder and still going strong after about 18 months.
Cheers
Gerry
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Follow Up By: Member - Ian W (NSW) - Tuesday, Sep 18, 2007 at 21:24
Tuesday, Sep 18, 2007 at 21:24
After working in the brake/clutch industry for many years I'm comfortable in stating that you will have to go a long way to get better clutch components for Asian vehicles. Daiken components are good stuff. Invariably you will find that your Toyo/Nissan/Mitsu etc....: original clutches are in fact Daiken.
Please get a price on a Daiken Clutch Kit befor committing yourself to original equipment branded stuff. You may very
well be amazed at the variation in price for what is manufactured in the same plant.
Ian
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Reply By: Jeeps - Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 23:04
Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 23:04
I had a Daiken fitted 2 weeks ago and it works fine :)
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 23:25
Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 23:25
which vehicle is that quote is 1/2 the price I was qouted for my L/C
Reputable ealers will ONLY fit the genuine clutch and the quote inludes the rear main and flywheel machining
If it doesnt include this they are shortut merchants
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Follow Up By: GREENDOG - Tuesday, Sep 18, 2007 at 06:21
Tuesday, Sep 18, 2007 at 06:21
this price includes all that and it's a NH 91 model petrol
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Reply By: MintabiePete (NSW) - Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 23:31
Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 23:31
Why would you need to replace the rear main seal if it was not leaking or machine the flywheel ? ??
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Tuesday, Sep 18, 2007 at 01:13
Tuesday, Sep 18, 2007 at 01:13
Coz a rear main requires the g box to be pulled out and might add 50 -100 bux to the job but cost many 00s as a seperate job
and you would machine the flywheel for the same reason you machine brakes NOT just change the pads
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Follow Up By: MintabiePete (NSW) - Tuesday, Sep 18, 2007 at 08:40
Tuesday, Sep 18, 2007 at 08:40
Guess I retired at the wrong time Davoe , I replaced many clutches in the trade and only replaced rear main seals if they were leaking and machined flywheels if they needed it , not on your assumption that it was not much extra to do it , my bosses would have had my guts for garters if I had done it . All this extra work makes sense in a way , but I would never have got away with it years ago :)
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 14:50
Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 14:50
Pete,
Flywheel machining became necessary when the asbestos-free clutches came out. If you don't machine it, the clutch doesn't bed in
well and you get shudder problems. I agree with you about the rear seal - I leave them alone as they rarely leak in Toyotas. But I always replace the spigot bearing.
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Follow Up By: MintabiePete (NSW) - Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 15:49
Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 15:49
Thanks for that bit of info Phil , just goes to show you , we never know it all do we , things change all the time :)
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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Tuesday, Sep 18, 2007 at 07:41
Tuesday, Sep 18, 2007 at 07:41
NH - 91 ? That a 3.0l petrol pajero?
$730.00 is a good price.
Cost me about $850.00 last time, but that was with a heavy duty clutch, i.e. better quality clutch material and heavier diaghram fingers. Original mitsu are good, but there are better. Check which make it is and get the specs. You could post on the Vic mitsubishi club
forum as a check.
pajero forum
Only got 160,000k out of my first clutch, but then I did tow a 2t boat and pull it up the ramp and take off up
hill at lights. :o)
This one is going a lot better. I always thought you only need to remachine the fly wheel if you had burnt the clutch, since there might be some warping, but most mechanics seem to do it these days. Suppose people don't always tell them the full history, or even remember.
If you have done a few
miles (200,000k+) since the last clutch, a rear main seal check is a good idea.
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Reply By:- Tuesday, Sep 18, 2007 at 09:46
Tuesday, Sep 18, 2007 at 09:46
Usual wisdom – get the best you can afford. Recently I have fitted Exedy Safari Tuff clutch into my LC (still Daikin clutch) and quite happy with it so far. IMHO unless you scratch it machining of FW does not do any good because it reduce thickness and therefore clutch throw and as result clutch pressure and finally torque what it can withstand. We talking here about fractions of mill, but I still fail to see any reason to do it unless it absolutely essential. Changing rear seal before it starts leak? Fix it when it brakes.
And it cost me $420 for clutch (it was 20% off or so in Autobarn) and half weekend spend in my garage with my friends. Oh,
yea, and slab of beer. It was not such a huge fun putting transmission back, but at the same time I have done transmission breather properly, inspected all seals and know now what I have attend next and plus have properly oiled drive shafts.
Cheers.
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Reply By: Member - Matt & Julie (VIC) - Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 19:09
Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 19:09
Hi Greendog
I had a Daiken clutch fitted about 10 weeks ago rear main (genuine) flywheel machined and sprigot bush all for $900 could not be happier
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Reply By: ross - Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 21:23
Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 21:23
Daiken and Exedy are the same company.
I put a Exedy Heavy duty clutch in my landcruiser diesel. This clutch has damping qualitites to cut down rattle landcruisers get at low rpms.
Works
well and not too hard on the leg muscles
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Reply By: GREENDOG - Thursday, Sep 20, 2007 at 21:04
Thursday, Sep 20, 2007 at 21:04
Thanks to every one that help me out in finding the right clutch to fit the Paj, i picked it up today and could'nt be happier it' feels great.thank you again.GO THE PIES cheer's GREENDOG
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Follow Up By: Kev M (QLD Bound) - Thursday, Sep 20, 2007 at 21:06
Thursday, Sep 20, 2007 at 21:06
If you keep eating Pies you'll end up looking like one LOL
Cheers Kev
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