NM Pajero - how capable?
Submitted: Friday, Sep 21, 2007 at 12:29
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IanM (Vic)
We will be updating our Sportage soon and am thinking of an NM Pajero but would like some opinions on how capable they are.
We are not looking to do rock hopping etc, more touring towing our camper trailer and some touring without it.
Places I am thinking of are
Vic high country, Wonnangatta, area around Mt. Pinnibar and the like.
The NM model is not considered to be as capable as the NL, for example, but its on-road manners and safety features have some appeal.
How
well will it handle the types of
places listed above - only mods I am thinking of are a set of AT tyres and maybe a steel bash plate?
Not really looking for opinions on other makes at this stage - if we do not go for the Paj (NM or NL) it will probably be a Prado, but if the Pajero will get us where we want to go the extra cost of the Prado could go on other things.
Thanks in advance for your help.
IanM
Reply By: Member - MrBitchi (QLD) - Friday, Sep 21, 2007 at 12:42
Friday, Sep 21, 2007 at 12:42
I might be a bit biased but I reckon they're as good as any other 4WD on the market in their price range in standard trim. This includes Landcruiser, Patrol and Prado. I'ts only when you're right at the ragged edge you may find some difference in ability, but that's mainly an independant
suspension versus live axle argument.
For my money the NM is better then the NL. Certainly has more interioe space and the auto tranny with InvecsII is a gem.
Have a look on the
Pajero Club forum for more biased opinions ;-))
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Follow Up By:- Friday, Sep 21, 2007 at 13:36
Friday, Sep 21, 2007 at 13:36
Agree, live axle versus independent much stronger argument toward 4WD-ing ability then Pajero vs Prado. I.e. I do not believe that Prado is more capable 4WD then independent front
suspension Pajero.
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Reply By: CYPHER-CHLNGER - Friday, Sep 21, 2007 at 13:25
Friday, Sep 21, 2007 at 13:25
Compared to a Sportage you will be very happy !
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Follow Up By: IanM (Vic) - Friday, Sep 21, 2007 at 13:49
Friday, Sep 21, 2007 at 13:49
In that case we will be ecstatic - the Sportage has been great vehicle, far more capable than most give it credit for.
The only reason we are moving up is to get something to tow our camper with.
Fitted with AT tyres it has 240mm clearance and has taken us everywhere we want to go - it has been amusing at times to pull up beside lifted Patrols etc in
places that they clearly think we have no right to be.
Not for a minute am I suggesting it is as capable as those cars, but if some-one was looking for a small, economical 4WD I would have no hesitation recommending the Kia.
IanM
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Reply By: Crackles - Friday, Sep 21, 2007 at 14:01
Friday, Sep 21, 2007 at 14:01
The Pajero is a very capable vehicle & the auto in particular is very good, if not one of the best in a 4wd. Comfort & pricing are both plus's. As with almost all vehicles in that class they are a little low & vunerable underneath. If you are looking at towing a trailer & venturing into intermediate High Country driving additional to the tyres I'd also suggest a slight suspenstion upgrade to raise the car & avoid the dints in the first place. Even on the erosion control ditch's the Paj would drag it's belly otherwise it would in general handle that terrain easy & in comfort.
As for the extra cost of the Prado
well it is certainly a better car for 4x4 touring (IMHO) & possibly even towing with greater torque, load carrying ability, 180L fuel tank & a far superior repair & spares network etc but all items that are nice but not necessary.
Cheers Craig...........
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Reply By: Richard W (NSW) - Friday, Sep 21, 2007 at 19:12
Friday, Sep 21, 2007 at 19:12
Ian,
I had a 2001 NM Auto Petrol for 3 1/2 years prior to the current vehicle. It was an excellent touring vehicle and would go most
places. eg Menai,
Appin, Mt Walker, Simpson etc.
I put in a 2" lift shod it with larger Cooper STC's. They were a bit noisy though.
If going again I'd be looking at a diesel 3.2 DT rather than the 2.8 DT.
I don't think you'll be disappointed.
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Reply By: marq - Friday, Sep 21, 2007 at 20:04
Friday, Sep 21, 2007 at 20:04
Got the NP DiD - taken it
places that would scare alot of people - and
places the Rodeo 4wd would not go... (have 2" lift etc)
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Reply By: AdrianLR (VIC) - Friday, Sep 21, 2007 at 20:54
Friday, Sep 21, 2007 at 20:54
We're very happy with our NP. If you can, stretch the budget to an NP with the 3.2 DiD - better for towing than the 2.8. Other than the engine though, they're fairly similar.
The rear will sag without some "support". Polyairs work very
well for us (we have a Trak Shak with a GVM of 1100kg and a boat that's about the same).
Over the last 15 years I've had a couple of Patrols, a Cherokee, a couple of Td5 Disco's and now the Paj (all on lease arrangements) The Paj is the first vehicle I'm seriously considering adding non-removable accessories to at my expense and keeping beyond the lease. The warranty is good, servicing costs and dealer network ok (both much better than Landrover these days).
So far we've been to the Flinder Ranges and various Victorian tracks. The Paj has performed
well (particularly after the airbags were fitted) and no worse than any of the other makes. As others have said, at the limit a Patrol or Landcruiser will go further but that's not where we travel.
Adrian
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Follow Up By: pjchris - Friday, Sep 21, 2007 at 23:41
Friday, Sep 21, 2007 at 23:41
NM's post July 2002 were also available with the 3.2DiD (I know, I've got one). The NP would have traction control etc. which the NM doesn't.
Peter
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Reply By: Member - Vince B (NSW) - Friday, Sep 21, 2007 at 21:26
Friday, Sep 21, 2007 at 21:26
Hi Ian.
I traded up from aNL into a NP diesel manual 9 months ago .
Very happy with the performance, ride etc. Only one problem, DUST. I hope the problem will be fixed next week when I get a dust seal kit fitted
Vince
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