Battery pack and charger
Submitted: Saturday, Sep 22, 2007 at 22:38
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shameem
I took delivery of my caravan today, after six months of research and heaps of useful advise on the
forum...thanks. One problem. It has a deep cycle battery and a charger which has the power indicator lit when connected to 240v. I cant find any switch etc to turn on the charging. The 'charging' and 'fully charged' indicators do not come on. Would there be any switch somewhere? If so I have not found any. There is another little box sitting next to the charger (with a fuse in it) and wires going to the charger. There is a black switch labelled 'car' or 'bat'. Does not seem to do anything. Any ideas.
Reply By: disco1942 - Sunday, Sep 23, 2007 at 01:59
Sunday, Sep 23, 2007 at 01:59
Sharmeem
Please supply details of your model of caravan. Different manufacturers wire their vans in different ways. If we know what you own there will be someone with the same model that can help you..
PeterD
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Follow Up By: shameem - Sunday, Sep 23, 2007 at 08:57
Sunday, Sep 23, 2007 at 08:57
The caravan is an Olympic 2000, single axle, 17.5feet. make year is 2003. Thanks Peter. It came with all the HR anti sway gear.
Another thing I would like to know is if there is anyway to find out how much
water is in the tanks.
sa
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Reply By: Rock Ape - Sunday, Sep 23, 2007 at 09:27
Sunday, Sep 23, 2007 at 09:27
In your owners manual a wiring diagram should have been supplied
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Reply By: Mick - Sunday, Sep 23, 2007 at 09:56
Sunday, Sep 23, 2007 at 09:56
The sinmple way to tell how much
water is in the tanks is as follows: Drain and refill the tanks and then they'll be full. As you use the
water they'll become less full until all the
water is gone and then they'll be empty. Back to the seller for electrical operation I suggest.
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Follow Up By: Ian from Thermoguard Instruments - Sunday, Sep 23, 2007 at 10:03
Sunday, Sep 23, 2007 at 10:03
Hard to argue with Mick's logic but Camec and other caravan accessory mobs sell electronic
tank gauges. Need to have a probe inserted into the
tank and mount the indicator inside somewhere and hook it up to 12V. We've never bothered, just full-up whenever we're at a place with good
water.
If your new van didn't come with a manual explaining all the workings, including the electrical system, get back to the dealer/manufacturer and insist you get one.
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Reply By: Keith_A (Qld) - Sunday, Sep 23, 2007 at 12:38
Sunday, Sep 23, 2007 at 12:38
Hi Sharmeem - do you know the make or model of the charger? (Often included in the paperwork/manuals).
Our Coromal had a charger (X6 I think) and the switch was small and black on the black case - hard to see.................
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Follow Up By: shameem - Sunday, Sep 23, 2007 at 16:50
Sunday, Sep 23, 2007 at 16:50
Hello Keith, the charger id Projecta 3500 (!) with three indicator lights on the left (the charging and fully charged indicator lights dont seem to be working. There is a box nect to it - ADPS2, DC - Power. I looked for a switch to start the charging process...there is none on the charger. I figure that being the case, it must be aotomatic - so don't the charging indicator lights don't come on. The battery is a deep cycle 100-120 amps.
Rochie (below suggested I get a multi-meter...which seems like a good idea ...
sa
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Follow Up By: disco1942 - Sunday, Sep 23, 2007 at 19:17
Sunday, Sep 23, 2007 at 19:17
Sharmeem
Can you find something that looks like an AC power cord going to one of the boxes? Often these go through holes and a power point is located in an odd spot where it is not readily visible. Chase power cords like this and find out where they go and check it is switched on.
I take it you have quizzed everyone where you purchased this van to see if they have any clues. Have you attempted to find its previous owners?? They may shed light on your problems. Try ringing the van manufacturer and see if they did the installation (their details should be on the compliance plate.)
If the van has been stored at a dealers yard for some time the battery may be too flat for the charger to start.
If the 12V system was added by the previous owner and not the manufacturer you could have any sort of Heath Robinson lash up. In this case I suggest taking your van to someone who understands van wiring. Purchasing a multimeter may not help you much if you know little of what you are searching. If you can not get to understand the installation you may be better off having it rewired to a simpler system - electronic nuts often produce systems for themselves that are too complicated for the average punter.
PeterD
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Sunday, Sep 23, 2007 at 13:39
Sunday, Sep 23, 2007 at 13:39
The various replies you've recieved so far seem to indicate the respondents think you've bought a new van. Clearly, from one of your follow-ups, yours is a 2003 model, which would tend to indicate it is possibly not new.....hence not much point going to the dealer and "insisting" on an instruction booklet.
Now, have you got a multi meter? If not, it'd be a wise way to spend $20- or so.
Now, take your multimeter and check the voltage at the battery as follows:
1. At rest, with nothing running off it, after it's been like that for about 24 hours. Should show between 12.6 and 12.8 volts.
2. Plug van into 240 volts and see what (if anything) happens to the voltage. If the charger is working, the voltage should increase.
3. Similarly, after leaving dormant for 24 hours, connect your vehcile's electrical connection and leave car running. Check multimeter; voltage should rise from 12.6 to anywhere up to 14.*
If the 240 volt charger doesn't seem to put any charge in, check what voltage is coming off the 12 v wires (at the black box you mentioned).
You may have to unscrew the black box to see what wires go where. I would suggest you should have the switch set to "CAR" when travelling with car connected and the "BAT" when you have the 240 volts connected.
You may think it's all too hard and decide to go to an auto electrician. However, you will be better off in the long run if you can sort it out for yourself.....if something goes wrong when you're out of town, you'll be better off knowing all about how everything works.
Cheers
Roachie
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Follow Up By: shameem - Sunday, Sep 23, 2007 at 16:32
Sunday, Sep 23, 2007 at 16:32
Thanks Roachie.....finally a thinker!! Multi-meter seems like a good idea. I get it about the CAR / BAT switch .....so when plugged to 240v the switch is not relevant. Next to this there is another dial type switch with three positions 12v /off/ 240v which appears irrelevant when plugged to 240v except when when dial is on 12v, in which case the battery kicks in.
Re the
water...we have been on
tank water for 25+ years and
water level indicates have always been a priority consideration. That probably explains my preoccupation with it.....bit like the fuel gauze on a long trip. Thanks anyway to all the smarties!
shameem
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Follow Up By: shameem - Saturday, Sep 29, 2007 at 20:09
Saturday, Sep 29, 2007 at 20:09
Hello Roachie,
I checked the deep cycle battery with the multimeter, but the reading is only about 8.4. Does that mean its dying or dead? Its been connected to 240 v for about a week. The charger is getting powe (red indicator). But the 'charging and fully charged indicators are not appearing. Could this mean the battery is no good.
Regards
sa
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