A possible stupid question regarding winch straps.

Submitted: Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 at 19:16
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Could some please explain the difference between an extension strap and a towing strap assuming that they are rated the same and are the same length.
I've seen both in the shops and they look the same to me.
Thanks.
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 at 19:58

Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 at 19:58
No difference Craig

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Reply By: Kev. (Cairns) - Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 at 20:05

Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 at 20:05
I wonder if they are the same price. LOL
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Follow Up By: CraigB - Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 at 20:12

Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 at 20:12
Kev,
Nope..different prices as well.
ARB have a tow strap and a separate winch extension strap and so does Supercheap.
There is about $15 bucks difference respectively in both stores.
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Reply By: Grungle - Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 at 20:18

Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 at 20:18
Winch extension straps are usually longer and thus dearer. You could use a snatch strap as an extension strap but I personally wouldn't use as extension strap as a snatch strap due to the amount of elasticity over its length. However in an emergency I would use whatever I could.

Usually rated the same as well but there is a wide variety of ratings and lengths amongst the various manufacturers out there.

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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 at 20:56

Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 at 20:56
David,
Not sure you meant it the way I read it.....but NEVER use a winch extension strap in the same way as you would use a snatch strap.
Winch strap has NO elasticity. If you hook it up with slack, ready to use in the same way you would use a snatchum, you will damage one/both vehicles (in all liklihood).
For this reason, if you ever find yourself in a situation where you want to assist another driver who is stuck, and if he produces what he reckons is a snatchum ....make sure you check it out first and satisfy yourself that it is a one. If not, you take off and lose back half of your rig!!!
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Follow Up By: Grungle - Wednesday, Sep 26, 2007 at 07:36

Wednesday, Sep 26, 2007 at 07:36
Hi Roachie,

Yes sorry - could have worded it a little better as I was not really specific enough on its elasticity.

Should read 'lack of elactisity over its length' as 'amount of' doesn't say whether there is a lack of or a lot of.

Saying that I would still use one to recover a vehicle if the poo hit the fan if there was absolutely nothing else to use (as I am sure a lot of others would as well). I would just be very mindful to not use it as a snatch strap per say but more of a tow line.
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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Wednesday, Sep 26, 2007 at 09:24

Wednesday, Sep 26, 2007 at 09:24
Hi - guys I know used a winch extension strap thinking it was a "snatch strap" (I left them heap of gear to get out of bog under assumption they knew what they were doing). Result - several thousand dollars damage to rear door of cruiser.

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Reply By: disco1942 - Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 at 20:18

Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 at 20:18
I would suggest that winch extension straps do not need any stretch where tow straps can use a little stretch to absorb shocks, but not as much stretch as a snatch strap.

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Reply By: disco1942 - Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 at 20:18

Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 at 20:18
I would suggest that winch extension straps do not need any stretch where tow straps can use a little stretch to absorb shocks, but not as much stretch as a snatch strap.

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Reply By: Philip A - Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 at 20:31

Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 at 20:31
Winch straps are not designed to stretch and rebound. they are not "kinetic energy" straps. They have a weave like a seat belt.
They have a bit of give but not a lot.
Imagine a snatch strap as a seatbelt, you would hit the steering wheel then be catapulted out the back window>LOL
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Reply By: Kev. (Cairns) - Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 at 23:04

Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 at 23:04
Now we are getting confused with a snatch strap that wasn't mentioned in the first post.

Extension & tow strap.
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Reply By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Wednesday, Sep 26, 2007 at 08:08

Wednesday, Sep 26, 2007 at 08:08
Is it possible that a tow strap has a max legal length and a winch extension can be any length ?
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Reply By: Philip A - Wednesday, Sep 26, 2007 at 09:44

Wednesday, Sep 26, 2007 at 09:44
Sorry, you are correct, I didn't read carefully.
Australian Road rules.
295 Motor vehicle towing another vehicle with a towline
(1) The driver of a motor vehicle towing another vehicle using a
chain, rope, fabric, strap or wire (the towline) must comply
with this rule.
Offence provision.
Note Motor vehicle is defined in the dictionary, and vehicle is defined in
rule 15.
(2) If neither of the vehicles is a motor bike, the driver must keep a
distance of not over 4 metres between the vehicles.
Note Motor bike is defined in the dictionary.
(3) If at least 1 of the vehicles is a motor bike, the driver must keep
a distance of not over 2.5 metres between the vehicles.
(4) If the towline is longer than 2 metres, the driver must attach a
white or brightly coloured flag, piece of cloth or other similar
material (the warning material) to the towline in accordance
with subrule (5).
(5) The warning material must:
(a) be substantially square or rectangular with 2 adjacent sides
at least 300 millimetres long; and
(b) be attached midway along the towline; and
(c) be visible for at least 100 metres from either side of the
warning material.
(6) Subrule (2), (3) or (4) does not apply to a driver if the driver is
exempt from the subrule under another law of this jurisdiction
and is complying with the conditions (if any) of the exemption.

So the max is 4 meters, so most tow ropes will be less than 5 meters.
I cannot see that a winch extension strap 5 meters long would be much use.
If the looad rating is similar they should be similar,but usually a good tow strap will have abrasion protectors.
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