Front Diff Locks

Submitted: Saturday, Oct 06, 2007 at 14:56
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After 8 months travelling mostly offroad in northern/central WA outback, thought a few words on front diff lock might be useful.
1. fitted an ARB air locker to front only. Logic: this would be the best upgrade for a near new Troopy - ie rear LSD in new condition offers good performance at rear and gives LSD in 2WD
2. initial fitting failed - small compressor cycling every 15-20 secs indicated airleak. ARB fitted purge valve at no cost.
3. air filter unit fell off after 15,000km seemingly due to its having been cracked on fitting/assembly. ARB replaced under warranty
4. small compressor fitted too low in engine bay (low behind headlight) - causing me to switch on before entering deep water and then switch off before reaching say 70cm - worried that the unit might pump water into diff or be damaged.
5. used it all deep crossings, only the frightening sand dunes, occasional bogs, and for extrication from deep washouts

Lessons
1. Check the cycling/performance before leaving the fitting shop
2. have a say into where the unit is fitted - ie get it as high as possible or inside the cab
3. it gave no appreciable benefit in extrication from bogs and in sand (vehicle heavily laden)
4. seemed to provide value for clawing way out of short steep washouts (ie low range first gear lots of pedal)
5. consider carefully whether small compressor is the answer - if you have the room, opt for large compressor as this gives fall back for tyre pumping if your tyre pump fails (my ARB tyre pump has started making not funny noises)
6. maybe a rear air locker is on the cards
7. the switch lights for the airlocker are bright whether the unit is on or off - have them mounted away from normal driving vision for night driving or get a dimmer.

Overall - not really the answer to lone vehicle travel in testing environment
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Reply By: Member -Dodger - Saturday, Oct 06, 2007 at 17:13

Saturday, Oct 06, 2007 at 17:13
Fit LOck Tote or Detroit.
No worries about compressor or engagement.
I used to have a handle on life, but it broke.

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Reply By: Member - Doug T (Qld) - Saturday, Oct 06, 2007 at 18:30

Saturday, Oct 06, 2007 at 18:30
Chris
Its a bugger when you spend big dollars on a product only to have it fail when you need it most, The ARB Air locker is OK but worked better with the larger compressor ,
Dodger has the right idea .
I too have two Auto Detroit full NoSpin Lockers , and the rear one is always locked and working 100% and unlocks when you turn , NOT if you put the hammer down though,
As for the LSD ...well the L means Limited , when the crunch time comes you will still have 1 wheel spin ,
There is no Limited with Detroits, mate it's all go , Have a look at this website on the subject . Diff Locks
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Follow Up By: Member - Lionel A (WA) - Sunday, Oct 07, 2007 at 08:02

Sunday, Oct 07, 2007 at 08:02
Thanks Doug,
Not a bad article on diff locks.
I was leaning towards ARB airs but my heart was still thinking Detroits. Mainly the steering issue.

The ol' patrols rear lsd is as good as the day it was born and serviced recently. I think I'll fit a detroit up front and see how she goes. If ok, maybe fire one in the rear. If that works ok then the clip round the ear Im going to get from SWMBO will be worth it..
hehehehehe.....

Cheers mate.....Lionel.
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (Qld) - Sunday, Oct 07, 2007 at 09:10

Sunday, Oct 07, 2007 at 09:10
Lionel
In the dunes of the Simpson I had problem steering , just feels a lot heavier , and because I have 1 in the rear as well my tactic was to just pull it back into 2WD soon as I began going down and along the flats , then with the hubs still in lock it's not to bad,
With the rear there can be a kick when it jumps in when taking of from lights etc, I never gun it just in case, with a locker you train yourself to drive much differently , mainly all in the right foot area, And anyone who has a Landcruiser 75 series be prepared to maybe sheer the axle studs , 3 small spot welds fixes that , I take a 240v 650w Angle grinder when going outback just in case I need to remove the hub/axle
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris R (NSW) - Sunday, Oct 07, 2007 at 10:00

Sunday, Oct 07, 2007 at 10:00
Thanks for comments Doug and Lionel. I didn't notice any real change in steering - just a little heavier certainly not enough to worry about - and at one stage I was turning pretty much lock to lock in hilly deep sand country.
Seems another lesson is to DO MORE RESEARCH into the lockers available - and WHO supplies them in your area (my case nearset town Nowra NSW).
Have long had the idea that auto engaging lockers may deliver large power jolts and stress in drive train. This was a major reason for the ARB choice. But I must say I was pretty much sold on their product and therefore did not give equal attention to the others

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Reply By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Saturday, Oct 06, 2007 at 21:17

Saturday, Oct 06, 2007 at 21:17
I was on a very soft beach today with a new Troopy tray back and even with dbl diff locks he got no further then non diff locked vehicles.
Lowered tyre pressure worked where the diff locks did not ! However, diff locks are great in cross-axle situations on rough terrain.
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Follow Up By: Member - Matt Mu (Perth-WA) - Monday, Oct 08, 2007 at 11:49

Monday, Oct 08, 2007 at 11:49
Diff locks are not all that helpfull in sand due to the relativly similar resistance to all wheels in sand.

I have a front Auto locker in my Rodeo and love it but its in the rocky or muddy stuff it makes a diff...not sand.
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