Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 07:58
Not sure how it works on a demo, but during the negotiations for a new car you need to be willing to walk out.
There is usually a little dance you do with the salespeople where they keep having to go to the manager to get approval to take the last few $100.00 or $1000.00 off to "get you the best deal". The salesperson being on your side and the manager being the bogey man. Usual good cop bad cop routine. This leaving to talk to the manager for a "good price" means you are starting to get close.
I find this happens to me every time, and the salesperson may have to talk to the manager two or three times.
At this point, you need to be willing to walk out and come back another day "when they have made up thier mind", or be willing to "go to another dealer". You are the customer buying the vehicle, they are not doing you a favour letting you have it at a good price.
Of course, if you are too hard, you may not get the car, and need to start again, but that is the chance you take bargaining for a good price.
So as some one else suggested, see if you can get the accessories for nothing for a start.
One other thing I do is price a couple of accessories like A/C, bullbars from a
well known third party. Usually they are cheaper from a 3rd party. Check at the dealer what price they are and maybe talk about ticking the boxes, then finalise a price. Then don't take the accessories and take that back off the final price. Only hassle is if that they will not be covered by dealers warranty, only the accessory manufacturer's warranty. Just remember that they have the option to say no to your bargaining, and you can take a different tack.
Getting the final price at a dealer takes me at least an hour of negotiation.
Also remember that the dealer has an "invoice price" from the manufacturer. It may be mentioned that they are selling at "invoice price" and infering they are not making any money. However, what they don't tell you is that there may be monthly bonuses or discounts from the maker based on the sales figures, so the real final price it cost the dealer is less than the invoice price. Different manufacturers have different bonus schemes. So if you can get it for invoice price, you are getting a reasonable deal, and the dealer is still making money.
The dealer may also get a special deal on buying a car for demo.
The technique is to get you emotionally involved first. Be a friend and talk about what you will do with the car, how good it is. That you need that car. Once they know they have you by the short and curlies, they can then do the little dance and dictate the price until you feel you "got a bargain", and you are happy in your mind. It's called reeling them in, and it is exactly like playing a fish. And the salesperson may actually believe they have done you a favour, for their own emotional needs to keep going to the next customer,and a lot of the time, the salesperson don't know they are doing it.
Gee, I am cynical re-reading that! But ti happens just about every time. :o)
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Follow Up By: Laura aka diver 1 - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 08:05
Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 08:05
Im going to ask for the accessories to be dropped off the price if not at window tint - its a used car so give us more than standard without paying for it.
They weren't going to take our car with the accessories so why should we??!!
Laura
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 08:59
Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 08:59
If you have paid a deposit, you have made a deal, but you should be able to barter.
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Follow Up By: Laura aka diver 1 - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 09:15
Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 09:15
John,
It hasnt got both our signatures yet so we can still pull out at this stage if need be...
Laura
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