New 'Cruisers out & about..

Submitted: Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 08:42
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Coming up Sesame St (Hume Hwy) this morning. A convoy of what looked to be a new model Land Cruiser. 6 white vehicles, covered in dust & mud. A few dings in a couple of them. 2 were LHD.
Had, by the look, sequential regos.
Maybe out doing quality control testing?? And on the way to the Motor Show??
And NO- there wasn't a Nissan back-up vehicle!!!!
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Reply By: Steve L - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 09:03

Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 09:03
I think you'll find it's media driving them as part of the launch (I think the launch officially started yesterday....).
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Follow Up By: Member -Signman - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 10:02

Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 10:02
These looked as if they had been on a bit more extreme excursion than a few journos taking them for a flog around the block!!
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Reply By: BennyGU - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 15:20

Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 15:20
"Maybe out doing quality control testing?? And on the way to the Motor Show??"

Naahhh, just seeing if they could keep up with the mighty Patrol in a comparrison of offroad capabiliies, reason why they were all alone when you saw them on the highway is because when they saw a dirt road the electronics had a brain fart, the Kinetic suspension gave up, the two turbos on the diesel seized, brakes failed and hence why two of them have dings in them, driving them back onto the blacktop and restarting them cleared the error codes but the following message was displayed on the dash, "Offroad driving is not this vechiles intended purpose, please refrain from further use in said environment".

As for the patrol they were trying to follow its still skull dragging back the few that made it on to the track, gotta love the sheer grunt of the ZD30 :)

The new (sort of-ish) LandCruiser 200 series: King of the school run

Ben
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Reply By: Member - Lionel A (WA) - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 18:13

Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 18:13
6 Tojos going off road without a Nissan backup vehicle...eh!

They were obviously tourists.........hehehe.....

Cheers......Lionel.
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Reply By: Russ n Sue - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 18:51

Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 18:51
With the greatest respect to Signman, does anyone else find themselves thinking "ho hum, so what" whenever they see reports about the new cruisers?

Cheers,

Russ.
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Follow Up By: Member - Glenn D (NSW) - Friday, Oct 12, 2007 at 21:10

Friday, Oct 12, 2007 at 21:10
Hey Russ,

Read an article in the paper the other week about the guy who developed the 'Kinetic' suspension system on the 200 series ,some fairly interesting stuff . I would like to see that in action .

If that doesnt impress you you couldnt possibly Ho - Hum at a twin turbo V8 Diesel surely ?

Glenn.
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Follow Up By: Russ n Sue - Sunday, Oct 14, 2007 at 15:48

Sunday, Oct 14, 2007 at 15:48
G'day Glenn,

actually the whole twin turbo thing doesn't do much for me. Toyota have yet again showed that they lack the ability to come up with any truly innovative engineering.

Instead of coming up with an advanced engine they've gone back to more cubes and two turbos to create a donk that meets Euro 4 emission standards but has pretty average power and torque figures for its size. Compare the Toyota 190KW, 600NM engine with the TDV8 in the Range Rover that is 200KW and 640NM from an engine that is 900cc smaller! Admittedly, the Rangie engine is also twin turbo, but obviously the engineering is better to achieve these figures.

This has been the story of Toyota for years now. Sure they are tough vehicles and you can't break them with a stick, but pound for pound they have been underpowered , fuel guzzling monsters. For too long they have been poorly accessorised for the money you pay for them and lack design imagination. The kinetic suspension is bnew, granted, but it's really just a small leap from existing pneumatic suspensions that have been around for years.

They're even raving on about the "first in the world" crawl system that makes crawling over rocks etc easy. First in the world my ass. It's been around for years. There is a setting on the terrain response control of my car called "rock crawl", and that's just what it does, and Disco 3's have been out since 2004!

Like I said, ho hum. Wake me up when they do something really interesting.

Cheers

Russ.
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Follow Up By: Member - Glenn D (NSW) - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 14:30

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 14:30
I Guess you are right Russ,

After seeing it in action on Gone Bush's link I am less than impressed ,guess ifs limits any susspension system.

Glenn.
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Reply By: Gone Bush (WA) - Friday, Oct 12, 2007 at 21:24

Friday, Oct 12, 2007 at 21:24
Out come all the pussy whipped recession shoppers who bought their Patrols after grovelling for permission from their wives.

Not to mention the die hard monarchists who tool around in their LandRovers reliving the British Raj, trying to find a punka wallah to sit on their verandahs and fan them in the Aussie heat.

Have a look at the suspension working in this link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjouZK_jV24

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Follow Up By: Member - Glenn D (NSW) - Saturday, Oct 13, 2007 at 21:39

Saturday, Oct 13, 2007 at 21:39
Thanks for slapping some sense into me !

The 'you beaut' suspension didnt stop the IFS from lifting a front wheel , the back wheel was also pulsing , traction control ? , even I thought a Toyo LSD lasted longer than that.

You are right about budget buying as well the 20G I saved from buying a Patrol and not a Cruiser went off my mortgage.

You also hit the nail on the head with 'Pussy Whipped' as well , to be labelled as such means you have to see one from time to time , guess at '56' that rules you out.

Thank you for the lesson Master.

Glenn.
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Follow Up By: Member - Glenn D (NSW) - Saturday, Oct 13, 2007 at 21:39

Saturday, Oct 13, 2007 at 21:39
Thanks for slapping some sense into me !

The 'you beaut' suspension didnt stop the IFS from lifting a front wheel , the back wheel was also pulsing , traction control ? , even I thought a Toyo LSD lasted longer than that.

You are right about budget buying as well the 20G I saved from buying a Patrol and not a Cruiser went off my mortgage.

You also hit the nail on the head with 'Pussy Whipped' as well , to be labelled as such means you have to see one from time to time , guess at '56' that rules you out.

Thank you for the lesson Master.

Glenn.
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Follow Up By: Member - Glenn D (NSW) - Saturday, Oct 13, 2007 at 21:40

Saturday, Oct 13, 2007 at 21:40
I really wanted you to read that LOL !
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