Internet telephone any information required

Submitted: Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 12:33
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Would like any information on internet telephone?
Also wanting to purchase laptop for on the road just to get emails banking etc with wireless network so we are able to use when we out in bush. What is a basic model we will need how much speed? The wireless network works if there is phone coverage in the area but with the next g network next year will it still work the same? Is it better to wait till next year to purchase as package.?
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Reply By: Member - bungarra (WA) - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 12:53

Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 12:53
Internet telephone is not wireless internet. By intenet telephone I assume you mean the voice over internet protocol..called skype I believe...I have no experience or knowledge of that......

Wireless internet is only going to work in cities centers somehwere or outside of places (Macdonalds I am told?) that dont have a locked system...forget it in the bush

but I can tell you that the NEXT G mobile broadband internet access works beautfully for us on our laptop and very fast. Anywhere you can get Next G mobile telephone service signal the mobile broadband works....same network ...but you need a card or USB adaptor and subscribe to the service ..short external aerial helps (hangs on the back of the laptop screen on velcro)

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Reply By: ExplorOz Team - Michelle - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 13:15

Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 13:15
As Bungarra says, "internet telephone" means VOIP, voice over IP. This is available through your ISP provider, eg. iPrimus, or you can use Skype, or many other options. We have been usign Skype for all our long distance and mobile phone calls from our office for a year already and has significantly reduced our monthly phone expenses. Skype users can "skype" one another for free over broadband - you download and register for Skype from their website and get your family/friends etc to setup their own Skype so you have a contact list. You can then buy skype credits to make calls to other non-Skype contacts (this is called Skype out), ie you can call any lanline or mobile so only your outgoing call is using broadband, and they pickup their normal phone handset and have no idea you are calling on VOIP. The call costs are very cheap - 2.5c per minute for STD long distance! Like prepaid mobile, you buy your credits in advance and when your account is depleted you buy more credits by going to their website. Go to their website for all information. Hope this helps.
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Follow Up By: mike2ronnie - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 13:30

Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 13:30
Thankyou for the information. Thats what we want the access to internet on laptop wherever there is phone coverage. Now to find a good laptop just the basics, any suggestions of a simple setup?
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz Team - Michelle - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 13:35

Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 13:35
To be honest, laptops are so cheap these days and come with so much gear on them they all seem like a good buy! We haven't bought a new one for many years, and David just rebuilds/upgrades our existing ones so I can't give you any recommendations other than DELL make good products and you can buy online and have it delivered to your door. Much of the cost in the more expensive laptops is in the video card grunt for gamers so you'll quickly work out what you do/don't need.
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Follow Up By: howie - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 14:16

Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 14:16
try and get a laptop that can be fixed and repaired in your home town.
the CPU should be 'mobile' type.
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Follow Up By: Russ n Sue - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 18:47

Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 18:47
When thinking of a laptop, you might like to consider whether you can use it for other things as well.

We use ours for Internet access via the Next G network as Bungarra pointed out, but we also purchased a model that is small enough (10" display) to be mounted on the dashboard and used as a GPS/mapping PC as well.

We use OziExplorer and Discover Aus software to give us "moving map" tracking of where we are and where we've been. It is a very handy facility.

Like Michelle stated, above, it doen't have a knockem dead graphics card and it's not the fastest model we could buy but it is perfectly good for mapping, Internet, Word Processing, photo editing and the like. We got a 12V DC to DC converter so we can run it without a 240V supply.

Most manufacturers have a smallish model in their line-up, so give it some thought.

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Follow Up By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 20:26

Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 20:26
We use our laptop to download photos, (make a CD or DVD copy also), watch DVD's, etc.

We found that the road corrugations and heat (I think anyway), depixalised a small section of the screen so we now have a couple of little clouds on the screen whenever we view something.
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Reply By: Alan H (Narangba QLD) - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 13:35

Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 13:35
I believe wireless internet will work where ever there is NextG service so you do not need to be in a large city.

Some get a wireless modem (run it on an inverter - needs 240v - will also run the laptop) so that you can use it at home as well as in the bush and you do have two internet subcriptions.
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Follow Up By: stevesub - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 18:28

Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 18:28
There are various "wireless" technologies available in Australia today.

1. WiFi which most laptops have these days. This works over a short distance in suitably equipped homes, business and hot-spots. The range is generally under 100m.

2. 3G is what is sold by Telstra, Vodafone, Optus, 3, etc and is generally only available in or near major cities. You can access the 3G network from a cellphone/cable to laptop or USB modem. Outside the 3G coverage area, you can get GPRS everywhere else that you can get mobile coverage from that network. This is slow - like just a tad faster than dialup.

3. NextG is a nationwide network from Telstra which gives nationwide broadband over your cellphone/cable to laptop or USB modem. By nationwide, you get coverage which is similar to the CDMA network and broadband works everywhere your NextG cellphone works.

Does VOIP work over any of these. Yes, VOIP works on WiFi but 3G and NextG, I have not tried so don't know but should work. VOIP did not work too well on the old GPRS network which is option2 above when you are away from 3G coverage

Hope that this helps

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Reply By: tdv - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 14:55

Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 14:55
I have only recently returned from travelling the NT and kimberley and used the setup you are thinking about. I have a Dell laptop purchased online for about $1200 delivered. just ensure you have plenty of RAM (more than 1GB) these days to run Windows Vista which will probably come standard.

I have a Next G mobile phone (Samsung A501) which is used to connect to the web via the laptop. It just plugs in with the cable supplied (no need to buy seperate wireless next G modem). I bought a $29/month data pack which isn't a contract so you can opt in or out as necessary. It gives 70MB which is plenty if you don't send or receive lots of photos. Speed is around 230-300kb/second. Had absolutely no problems at all...despite the complaints about Next G. I actually hate dealing with Telstra but the experience with Next G has softened my stance somewhat.

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Follow Up By: Alan H (Narangba QLD) - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 16:05

Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 16:05
Tez

With your data pack on the phone - can you just buy it one month and then forget it for a couple and then buy another month for another trip?

Do you define the month or is the start and finish controlled by you or telstra?

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Follow Up By: tdv - Friday, Oct 12, 2007 at 11:42

Friday, Oct 12, 2007 at 11:42
Yep just get it when i need it. No contracts on anything. I ring and say I need a data pack for the next month. Can't remember if it has to mirror billing dates of the phone though. The first time I rang to set it up i was a bit wary and they offered a month free to try it out and get it all setup.

I'd recommend ringing between normal business hours as you seem to get more helpful staff than after hours.

make sure you ask about a datapack and if they seem vague ask to be put through to someone who knows more. I spoke to the technical guys when i couldn't get it to work the first tiome and they were great.
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Reply By: mike2ronnie - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 15:51

Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 15:51
Thankyou for info, greatly appreciated .
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Reply By: KiwiAngler - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 17:10

Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 17:10
Hardly Normals are currently selling ex lease IBM notebooks for $499
I picked one up on saturday and will use it just for my moving maps.
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 19:29

Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 19:29
At the moment the best laptop probabvly is an ASUS They are seviced here in Queensland and parts are available.
God help Dell users when it dies.

Dell service their stuff in Malaysia and only send it back whern they have a pallet load (or so Im told from the industry)

My Daughter sells computers as a job and told me.
Dont buy Dell, Acer or HP.
So what did I buy, A Compaq which basically is an HP in a different case.
Reason, I got it cheap. A friend got an equivilent model ASUS and its a much better machine Faster and has more features for a lesser price. Wish I'd waited now.
We use VOIP for all our calls
Have two lines One thru iinet and one thru Mynetphone (10c Aussie wide) also have Skpe to call daughter in NZ FOR FREE
How good is that.
Just bought a Voip box and set it up for each service myself
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Friday, Oct 12, 2007 at 12:34

Friday, Oct 12, 2007 at 12:34
That is incorrect information about Dell servicing. I had to have my dell's graphics card replaced under warranty (3year version) and it was done on-site (my house) and within 2-3 days......this was in Mackay none-the-less.

Whilst they may make the items in Malaysia, and have their call-centre based there IIRC, i have found them to be helpful in fixing any problems. My 3 year old son ripped every key off the laptop one morning when i wasn't watching. Imagine my surprise when the cost to get another keyboard kit was $29 including express postage! This was not under warranty and i was pleasantly surprised.....expected it to be $100-200+.

I wouldn't trust any advice on brands without first-hand experience. The industry seems to thrive on propagating "our brand is better than x brand" garbage.

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Reply By: Skippy In The GU - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 19:43

Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 19:43
I have just signed up a contract with optus on a blackberry pearl smart phone on a $ 79 cap , it gives me unlimited emails and web browsing. I can surf all day and night without worrying about going over my data limit.
As long as I have GSM coverage I can ring or do my Internet stuff.
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Reply By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 20:22

Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 20:22
Mike my Nokia comes with Telstra Bigpond internet. (therfore no need for a laptop or seperate wireless connection.) Played around with it at home. Connectivity is a bit like wireless connection. Main trouble is that the screen is only the size of your phone screen. I had to scoll left/right up and down just to read a page. Hopeless.

The other option is to plug your phone into your laptop using USB cables can be an expensive way to get emails etc. We used a Minimax on the CDMA network last year when we tripped around and that was next to useless. We could only get true wireless connectivity twice (very good) the rest of the time it used the CDMA network and thus each connection was at the CDMA call rate per minute. Download rate was slower than your slowest standard internet dial-up speed. Often as slow as 2kb per second. We could only ever use it to get text emails and banking.

Next G network hopefully will be better?
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