Any updates on Next G???
Submitted: Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 13:52
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Member -Signman
Have looked thru the archives and still confused with NextG ?? On the radio this morning- Telstra are saying they are 'turning down' CDMA performance & winding up NextG. Those that were unhappy with NextG- is it working better now??
Also handsets. Been recommended Nokia 6120 or LG TU550. Any good/bad points on these. And has anyone info. on the NoFrills tradesman handset??
On pre-paid CDMA at the moment & it's just about dry, so might be good time to update rather than refill.
Any comments/input gratefully accepted!!!
Reply By: Alan H (Narangba QLD) - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 14:01
Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 14:01
Led to believe that the LG ones are the only ones where there is provision for direct connection to an external aerial.
Others state that current CDMA broomstick aerials fit the NextG frequency and can be connected. Hope this is correct.
Telstra site has blue ticks on a couple which are claimed to better suit rural use.
I also have to upgrade my CDMA and find all the advertising is about all the junk
services you get for a price rather than phone service.
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Follow Up By: Harrie - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 16:48
Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 16:48
LG550 and Samsung 412 are the only ones availabe with car kit at this stage. LG550 on a $60 plan with $49 car kit - Samsung on $40 with $49 car kit. As I said (below) it would seem the only reason these two are the blue ticked ones for rural use is because they have been rated on using them with the kit. Without the kit, I don't believe they are any better than the others.
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Reply By: Member - lyndon K (SA) - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 14:14
Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 14:14
The Nokia 6120 will soon have a cradle avaliable so it will be possible to use it with an external antenna,though it will be an after market product. This is what i'm waiting for.
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Follow Up By: Member -Signman - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 14:32
Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 14:32
So are you saying the 6120 is a good thing?? If so- why, compared to the others...
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Follow Up By: keepingitreal - Friday, Oct 12, 2007 at 00:40
Friday, Oct 12, 2007 at 00:40
I'll stick my 2 bobs worth in here signman. I've got the nokia 6120. Once you get used to smaller keypad ( day or 2), the phone is awesome. Wife has Samsung 411 ( dont go there!!) and Brother has LG550. Same thing, has had problems. Also the nokia hasn't got the telstra blue tick, but in our situation ( at various parts of central and western nsw, the nokia will outperform the Lg. I can make calls without external aerial where he can't unless it's plugged into the aerial. I have made up a nokia universal phone holder with one of the gsm proximity type boosters and when attached to my cdma aerial gives me full service from 1 bar otherwise. IMHO , the nokia is a better product, but thats just my opinion based on comparing it to the LG and Samsung.
Keepingitreal (NSW)
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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 15:15
Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 15:15
From what I can work out, Telstra is going into the next marketing stage for Next G.
Initial sales have gone, and sales are dropping.
So some of the special deals are being sharpened, and other hype abut CDMA closing down soon is being pushed, even though the government has not replied yet as to the close off date for CDMA from what I can glean.
Just had a tesltra rep ring me and offer Next G on a $20/mth plan uncluding $20 of calls, free telstra phone, and since we are telstra on the home land line, free $50 worth of calls a month on the home phone.
Told me CDMA will be gone as of Jan 2008, I have my doubts, but most probably could be some time in 2008.
We have 3 CDMA phones, so watching with interest.
Have heard various reports as to cover. Bit patchy.
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 23:08
Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 23:08
Telstra have sent us letters saying CDMA is being turned off 28 January 2008. They have since sent a brochure advertising a pre-paid phone for $149 with bonus of double the re-charge up to $40. Very fine print says not suitable for hand held use in rural areas! We are still waiting to see what else comes out or if the price drops - no hurry.
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Reply By: Member - Philip S (SA) - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 15:24
Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 15:24
Signman
I have had a Nokia 5140i tradesman phone for a couple of years. Previously I found I was often damaging phone by dropping, etc. Current phone is much more rugged there's no doubt. It still has a few whistles and bells I never use, but not as much as a lot of other newfangled phones I see. My main beef with mobiles is they are all getting smaller keys closer togeher, but our fingers aren't getting any smaller. I sure would be keen on a rugged "tradesman" phone with bigger keys.
Cheers
Phil
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Reply By: Member - Big Al. Gold Coast - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 15:29
Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 15:29
We have just returned from a 16500km round trip to WA via
Bathurst,
Melbourne.
Adelaide,Tanami,GRR
Perth.
Ceduna,
Coober Pedy and
Birdsville, and found our TU550 with Car antenna worked
well.
Almost every day we had some contact with home and family,either voice,e-mail or text.
The only exception was the leg between
Coober Pedy and
Quilpie in QLD. ( also had satelite phone but not used)
We also had a optus mobile It only worked in the bigger towns.
I think when telstra up the signal strength on the towers the service will silence all the critic's
Just my experence with next g !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 21:21
Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 21:21
Maybe they should have strengthened the signal already so we can see its not white elephant!! We might even change to next G now instead of clutching our CDMA till the end!!!! Michael
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Reply By: Member - Barry M (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 15:48
Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 15:48
Recently aquired the Samsung A412, one of the ones recomended for difficult reception areas (blue tick). Full car kit
available but will test out before going that way. Seems to work fine so far with limited use. Was spraying at Childowla yesterday,
not a sausage out there but cdma with car kit didnt work there
either. Phone was $0 on a $20 plan with $20 calls (Telstra).
So far so good.....oldbaz.
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Reply By: Harrie - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 16:39
Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 16:39
I would proceed slowly if I was you. We were in a poor reception area on the weekend with a cdma Nokia, a NextG Motorola and a NextG LG 500. The cdma had 2 bars of service, the Motorola 1 bar falling in and out, and the LG zilch. It would appear the only reason the LG and Samsung have the blue tick is because they have external aerials available. That is ok if you only use one car - we don't, and want to be able to use mobiles in multiple vehicles, motorbike and even on a horse!
I complained to Telstra, and they are going to loan us the new Nokia (6120?) soon as it becomes available as said they are getting good reports on it. Telstra shops will give you trial phones as NextG is so patchy so far.
Either the phones available now are not up to scratch, so waiting as long as possible may mean better ones come on the market. Or else the NextG network might be wonderful for anyone who wants to video conference and use very expensive internet - but not up to scratch for making a simple phone call!
I have noticed my LG 500 only holds charge for 2 days - this would appear to be because it doesn't have good service. Oh to go back to the good old days when phones were phones!
Hope this helps.
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Follow Up By: long haired nomad - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 21:48
Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 21:48
I have a LG TU500 it holds charge for about a week and have great coverage equal to or better than my CDMA nokia. It also has a external antenna connection on the back of it. As far as im concerned its better than CDMA.
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Reply By: TerraFirma - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 16:48
Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 16:48
I would ask for a handset that supports an external aerial/antenna as this comes in handy if you are on the cusp of reception somewhere, makes all the difference. Depends on what you want from the handset, I use a PDA Imate Jasjam and with Next G it delivers me broadband internet access, camera, video fucntion, email etc etc. It has become my travel companion for weather forecasts, internet, email and phone. It is also available as the HTC Titan or Dopod 838 Pro.
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (Qld) - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 19:13
Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 19:13
what do you do when get to the 2nd ....cusp of reception
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Follow Up By: QLD Kev - Friday, Oct 12, 2007 at 06:43
Friday, Oct 12, 2007 at 06:43
Drive quicker to get to the next reception area, by having the external aerial fitted he is lowering his risk of having to do that as much LOL
Kev
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (Qld) - Friday, Oct 12, 2007 at 08:07
Friday, Oct 12, 2007 at 08:07
Kev
Here's the Theory
All it does is shift the
boundary, with an antenna will give you ...what...20 or 30 extra Klm , it takes about 12/18 minutes to cover that , is that call going to come during that 12/18 minutes, or does the phone owner wait until he gets to the last 20klm before making the call ...after having had service for X amount of hours............????.
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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Friday, Oct 12, 2007 at 10:26
Friday, Oct 12, 2007 at 10:26
Quote Doug ""Kev Here's the Theory
All it does is shift the
boundary, with an antenna will give you ...what...20 or 30 extra Klm , it takes about 12/18 minutes to cover that , is that call going to come during that 12/18 minutes""
Thats not necessarily correct Doug , the antenna improves reception across the board, I wouldn't be putting 20KM boundaries on that. I have used an antenna offshore 120KM from land and picked up reception where otherwise I wouldn't have. I can't speak for CDMA never used it, but Next G is brilliant for me on my handset.
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (Qld) - Friday, Oct 12, 2007 at 10:51
Friday, Oct 12, 2007 at 10:51
TerraFirma
It's not very TerraFirma 120 klm off the coast, Hmmm where did you get the flotation devices .....I drive a Troopy , are they Genuine parts or aftermarket , aftermarket will be chinese, Chinese is cheap , they will fail 119klm out .....GASSSSSP
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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Friday, Oct 12, 2007 at 11:29
Friday, Oct 12, 2007 at 11:29
Dougy Boy, On a boat off course..! And it floats..! Doug, only passing on my real life experiences , would you like the GPS co-ordinates my man..?
Chinese did you say..?? Have you tried "Creamofsomeyoungguy""
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Reply By: Zodarp - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 16:53
Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 16:53
Do not changeover from CDMA to NextG. Telstra are still having problems with reliable connectivity of the network. Keep your CDMA phone until they have proven that NextG service works. Comparing the CDMA and NextG service has shown that the existing CDMA is far superior in range and reliability. Most CDMA customers are probably getting sick of the misinformation and the constantly annoying SMS messages advising of service shutdown in Jan 2008. I will probably stay with CDMA until its closure and then see what the other carriers have to offer.
Regards Zodarp
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Follow Up By: long haired nomad - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 21:54
Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 21:54
In your opinion CDMA is better but in my experience Next G is better. Who's right? Let people make up their own minds and buy what they want to. Eventually Next G will be in and CDMA will be switched off. What are you going to do then?
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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 18:27
Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 18:27
Hi Signman,
I recently upgraded my CDMA Nokia 6225 for a Nokia 6120 and have had a very positive experience.
Apart from the myriad of extra features, the phone camera is quite reasonable and battery life is great. Also, it has quad band GSM built in, so is great for travelling overseas for different networks - somthing I couldn't do with CDMA.
As for reception, I am getting as good or better reception with NextG without a carkit (still awaiting delivery) compared to my 6225 with carkit (which was better than my CDMA Kyrocera with carkit).
NextG will only get better as CDMA power is wound down and nextG ramped up. I was skeptical at first but am now sold on nextG (but gotta admit, have only been down south of WA and not back up North yet).
Cheers
Captain
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Reply By: stocky - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 19:28
Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 19:28
New Tradies handset (Blue ZTE thing) has been withdrawn from sale indefinately.............
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Reply By: Steve from Top End Explorer Tours - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 19:35
Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 19:35
I have a LG tu 500, I also have a 6.5 db areal and it works fine at
Jim Jim Falls camp ground, in fact I have an areal set up on my
camp trailer and one on my car as we speak my wife who is out there at the minute rang me 10 minutes ago reception is fine.
For the record Jim Jim
camp ground is 65 km from the nearest tower.
It has worked fine for me for the last 8 months and both phones I have are on 24/7 as business phones.
Cheers Steve.
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 20:06
Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 20:06
Hi Signman
Friend of
mine in country victoria just got talked into a 6120 on a $20 plan via a cold call.
After he recieved it I told him about blue tick external aerial connection.
After discussion with Telstra they took it back as they had not properly advised him of options and supplied the 550.
It was on $40 plan but they agreed to give it on a $30 plan.
Still in discussion over what if any re-stocking fee will apply.
Robin Miller
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Reply By: Member - eerfree(QLD) - Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 21:30
Thursday, Oct 11, 2007 at 21:30
I have just received a flyer from Telstra that makes me an Exclusive Offer, I have a prepaid CDMA phone.
They are offering a choice of 3 phones 2 Telstra and the LG500 all are available with optional carkits, but the small print says that the 2 Telstra phones are not recommended for handheld use in rural areas - DAMN - does that mean I have to hook up a battery to the saddle?
eerfree
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Reply By: Peter 2 - Friday, Oct 12, 2007 at 06:49
Friday, Oct 12, 2007 at 06:49
Another vote for the 6120, I changed over from the first Kyocera CDMA that worked faultlessly from day one on the CDMA.
While the 6120 does have lots of 'extra' features it has worked
well and pulls in a signal as a handheld in spots where the CDMA with full car kit and high gain antenna had none! Very clear calls too!
They will give you a deal and incentives to change over, just keep pushing!
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