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We want to buy a jayco flamingo,outback or swan camper trailer and wondering if it is essential to buy outback or if we could alter a normal model one - does anyone know how difficult it is to convert a normal model to outback?
Any help would be appreciated.
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Reply By: PradOz - Sunday, Oct 14, 2007 at 20:53

Sunday, Oct 14, 2007 at 20:53
It all depends on where you want to take your van. How far off road will you really go? If you are new to the whole van experience, you are maybe like I was at the start. I bought a heavily modified Jayco Camper that could go just about anywhere. It was a great van and seeing I had a 4WD and used it to go off road I thought I would obviously take it off road too. Problem was I didn't. So this van had a lot of features I did not need which equalled a lot more weight than I needed to tow each time also.

So I ended up selling it and buying a non Outback 1995 Swan, but it is very similar to an Outback due to its construction and looks. This is a great van in perfect condition which we could take off road if need be, but not into the very heavy stuff where vans like the Bushtracker etc are suited. You can easily modify a van like ours but you need to check the basics like size of frame etc.

So if you are not going too far off road this type of van could suit you. You then gradually add the features to suit the travels that you do and then end up with the van that is exactly what you want. It costs you less up front and you spend on the upgrades as and when you want. And if its your first van don't start by trying to get the works. Start off simple and work your way up with the mods.

We have loved ours from the start and had no problems at all. It unfortunately has not had much use over the past 18 months due to my back injury and so now I am trying to avoid selling it. It is too good a lifestyle in the right van. Do your homework - good luck Mick
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Reply By: Wizard1 - Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 09:57

Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 09:57
I recently did a suspension upgrade on our Jayco Freedom caravan to a setup with the same specs as the Outback, less the shocks.

A little bit over $2000 including new 15 x 7 stud wheels, new 235/70R15 tyres.

I was lucky the place I went to made their own axles which kept the price down little.

There were some clearance problems with the length of the wheel arches due to the frame height. A spacer piece could fix that or as we did relocate the rear wheel arch cross member and jacking point.
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Follow Up By: mud crab - Saturday, Oct 20, 2007 at 06:57

Saturday, Oct 20, 2007 at 06:57
hi just a question about your suspension
did u buy the items and do yourself if not where did u buy the parts from as we are in melbourne
is it a pop top or caravan thanks
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Reply By: Crackles - Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 18:24

Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 18:24
?Name? the Jaco outback in the scale of things is a light off-road van. Really they are sticking a normal van on heavy suspension so although it may have the clearance they don't have the strength in the body/fittings for true off-road work. Converting a normal road going unit would have even less strength to handle the bumps. It's not just a matter of fitting big wheels, higher suspension, chequer plate stones guards & a Treg coupling. Draw bars are normally thicker steel, heavier bearings, shocks, off-road electric brakes etc.............
If you just want a little extra clearance to get into rough camps then modifying a standard van would be fine. If you want to do occasional treks like the Birdsville track then an outback version would be recommended. If you want to get into more remote locations get a different brand.
Cheers Craig..............
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Follow Up By: Blaze - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 00:44

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 00:44
I would have to agree with quite a lot of what Crackles has written here.
I own a Jayco Outback and do take ours OFF ROAD, but we have done quite a bit of aftermarket work on it.
It was just a matter of "$" Maths. We purchased the unit brand new $19500 and then spent approx a weeks work in total checking and strengthening fittings. I have also increased tyre size, stone guard, spare wheel mount strengthening, etc. Unit still worked out around $15,000 cheaper than any of the (so called) high end off road campers.

So far we have done trips through Big Desert, Sunset National Park, Gawler Ranges, Warraweena (2 times), Brachina Gorge, Oodna Track, Painted Desert etc. Total amount of trouble to the van so far, dust getting in through vents in door, which I am now getting covers made for.

Biggest draw back is the width, but to put this in context it is very similar to the Adventure Camper dimensions.
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Reply By: Grinner - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 10:40

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 10:40
From memory, the upgrade to the outback model of our 2005 Eagle was about $2000. I felt this was good value for money, while you could maybe do most of the upgrades yourself, is it worth the extra hassle? Also the outback chassis has larger chassis rails compared to the standard model, which is something which would be difficult to do yourself.

In hindsight, the only other upgrade option I would have liked would be to go for the 16" wheels (normal outback has 15"), to match my Prado.

Grinner.

PS, talking to one of the sales reps at the Sandown show the other weekend, they do offer the option of underslinging the axel of the standard model, which would give more ground clearance, and allow bigger tyres to be fitted.
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Follow Up By: flappa - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 11:52

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 11:52
Beats me why anyone would buy the onroad model and then modify it.

I'm sure there would be warranty issues.

IMO better off to buy what you are after in the first place.

End of the day, you are likely to be able to drag an onroad van into 99.9% of the places an offroad will go.

The issue is though , the condition of the van after doing it.
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