totally o t wire less broadband

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hi guys
i'm asking this question because there seems to be some very clever people out there.
is there any way i can get broad band internet at home with out having a home phone line( ie. wireless) in the last 3 months i have had a total of 13 calls on my home phone every one i know rings me on the mobil so to me a land line seems to be a waste of money but i do like my broad band . so that is the problem any ideas would be appreciated. any idea on costs and where to get it would be good
thanks in advanced

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al
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Reply By: DIO - Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 18:27

Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 18:27
All depends on where you live. Have a look at this SITE it might be of some assistance to you.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 18:34

Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 18:34
And how much money you are prepared to spend on a sometimes slower service
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Reply By: Notso - Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 18:34

Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 18:34
This is a very hot topic at the moment have a read at this link

http://newsletters.fairfax.com.au/cgi-bin16/DM/y/eBSz70QTwQN0JhK0Ps8x0Ei
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Reply By: Member - Phantom (WA) - Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 19:05

Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 19:05
Hi Al,
I have done this exercise a hundred times now but every time balk at the costs involved. You have to buy a modem for the computer (about $300) then sign up at the cheapest rate @$77 per month. For that, you get the slowest speed and the smallest download possible. This means you would be paying excesses every month. The above link will give you the latest costs but from my point of view its just unjustifiably expensive.
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Reply By: Muddy doe (SA) - Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 19:15

Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 19:15
If you are only after moderate broadband usage then get the Virgin broadband and home phone deal. $60 a month and you get a little black box that is totally independent of the Big T.

Gives you 4 Gig of data per month at up to 512Kb/s speed (faster than dial up but slower than ADSL) as well as unlimited (within reason) local and STD phone calls anywhere in Australia. You plug your home phone handset into it and they give you a land line number.

It works using the Optus GSM network so if you are in the footprint of that network you can get it. It is no cost to start as long as you sign up for 24 months.

I got a mate onto it. He has just moved into a rental apartment and is moving again soon. Suits him great. It is certainly not the fastest internet but is way quicker than dial-up.

This is a market area that will see lots more vendors and product over the next year or so. Telstra have a competitive product but charge $$$$ for it.

Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (Qld) - Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 19:18

Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 19:18
Al
No 1 why would you say the subject is O T , If not for Internet connection you would not be using ExplorOz,

No 2 Phantom is 100% wrong,
Go to the Bigpond Wireless on the Net, Look at the Modem prices and the Plan rates,
Modem $249 , needs 240v, I use a 12v to 240v inverter
Mobile cards are dearer,
Plans for Relocatable Wireless Broadband

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Follow Up By: Member - Phantom (WA) - Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 19:42

Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 19:42
Your own link says the modems are $299. Hell, I was 100% wrong cos I missed by $1.00.
The costs are not far wrong either. For $40 (excuse the rounding) you get stuff all. To get anything you need to spend $84.
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (Qld) - Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 22:38

Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 22:38
Phantom
Modem is $249, GO BACK AND HAVE A PROPER LOOK, or do you need Glasses.
My plan is $49.95 for 1GB G Fast/ 256/128kbps

I was on Super G Fast/ 550kbps - 1.5 mbps/384kbps $79.95 1GB
It was very fast but I can get by on the lesser plan
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Follow Up By: Member - Phantom (WA) - Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 22:58

Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 22:58
Doug, Which ever way you look at it, your plan which is still expensive, gives you two pictures of naked women at slow speed. It is still far more expensive than a home phone package with whoever, which is what the original question was, or do you need glasses?
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 09:15

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 09:15
Phantom, I have to agree with both of you but Doug has it in one in this case. It is an option that is asked of. No land line.

If Doug upgraded as he would have been offered a couple of weeks ago to download a new Connection Manager and then the new firmware though he would then have an all-round faster connection.

Quote"My plan is $49.95 for 1GB G Fast/ 256/128kbps" I now have a faster upload then download which I have found frustrating. It may be my antenna though.

I have a power supply set at +6.2ve that will supply the modem, I just need to bite the bullet and get the laptop powered by a different power supply from the OE 240v ac one.

Yes, it is too expensive but like Doug, I find it will work well away from the home station when I need it.
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Follow Up By: Mr Fawlty - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 18:01

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 18:01
Thats exactly what I need..."slow speed naked women"....@ any price
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Reply By: Pomgonewalkabout - Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 20:00

Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 20:00
Up here in Leigh Creek I am on the 3G network with Bigpond for wireless broadband.
$249 for the modem and $49 a month for 1GB

It runs off 240 to a 12 volt plugpack so with a quick mod I can use it off my 12 volt camper battery.

cheers
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Follow Up By: John R (NSW) - Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 21:20

Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 21:20
That's the one I've just signed up to POM.

If you have a 3G phone you can take the sim card out of the modem and use the phone as a modem when away from 240v.

Tel$tra don't want you to know that but ;-)
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Follow Up By: Gerhardp1 - Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 23:12

Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 23:12
John, I don't think Telstra would care.

You've already paid them $249 - $299 for the sim card, which is worth about $0.03

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Follow Up By: John R (NSW) - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 08:47

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 08:47
Gerhard, I paid $249 for the modem and sim. I think I saved a few quid because a USB modem is $299 and the equivalent broadband plan is over $80 for essentially exactly the same product.

I still think what I paid is a rip, but at the moment Tel$tra is the only wireless broadband that works in the locations I need it. 3, IMHO is a scam, because it only works in a couple of capitals and if it roams outside its broadband zone you pay big time. Unless you know how to disable roaming (which the average person doesn't).
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Follow Up By: Go-N-Grey (WA) - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 09:07

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 09:07
Does this mean you can make voice calls with the same Sim?
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Follow Up By: John R (NSW) - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 09:23

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 09:23
Hi G-N-G,
I haven't tried, but when I use the sim in my Dopod, I have to switch the phone on to make it work because it uses the phone 'radio' to communicate. I then get a "3G" caption on the top line, which is the same I get with my regular sim card. When I connect to the net and there is data being exchanged, the caption changes to "H" as in HSDPA.

I accidentally pressed the call button once with the bigpond sim in, and it gave the indications it was going to dial out, but I cancelled it before it could connect. I don't have a phone plan with Tel$tra and was terrified I'd get charged some phenomenal fee to make the call.
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Reply By: stocky - Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 23:11

Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 23:11
It all depends on your needs!

If you use the net for email, banking, bit of news and so on 256/64 & 1GB is ample...

But if you want to pirate software, DVD's look at Pron and such like dubious pastimes - well you pays the price :-)
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Follow Up By: Mr Fawlty - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 18:04

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 18:04
Pron is dubious??????LOL
Who are you Stocky a self appointed "Fred Nile" pmsl....
Sorry just can't help myself
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Follow Up By: stocky - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 18:13

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 18:13
I have the fastest connection i can get - read into that what you will :-)

read between the lines PMSL!
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Reply By: Gerhardp1 - Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 23:19

Monday, Oct 15, 2007 at 23:19
It's a bit sad that as soon as somebody mentions Wireless broadband to replace a phone line, all the answers are about Telstra Next G.

There are other wireless plans from Internet service providers, try http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/

and search for Wireless broadband.

Last time I looked, coverage was improving but costs were still higher than ADSL plus line rental, but portable when moving house, as long as the new place is in coverage.

The latest offering in the news today is naked ADSL, should be available Q1 next year. You get a line which has no phone number/dial tone but has ADSL signal. Should save a bit per month.
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Follow Up By: disco1942 - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 00:32

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 00:32
Not quite everybody - Reply 4 gave an alternate. However I have to agree that too many forget that there are alternates to BigPond for those are mostly home bound. There are plenty to choose from - just try the Wirlpool link that was given above.

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Follow Up By: Pomgonewalkabout - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 17:09

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 17:09
Well not where I live.
Telstra is the only wireless option. (I think)
Unless I want to have a dish on the roof and go satellite broadband but it's slow and expensive and even with a grant you still have to pay a bit for installation and it isn't my house.

With Telstra wireless I can get broadband in the outback where I live, I can take it to Adelaide and use it there too.

The people who knock Telstra are they the same people who call Microsoft, run Linux or own a Apple Mac? LOL



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Follow Up By: disco1942 - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 17:47

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 17:47
POM

It may be where you live but we were answering the original question. Why do you types but in and hijack the thread?

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Follow Up By: Pomgonewalkabout - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 19:21

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 19:21
Is there any way i can get broad band internet at home with out having a home phone line( ie. wireless)

This was the original question and I think I answered it?
Is there any way I can get get broadband internet at home without having a home phone line?

Now I know why I don't frequent these forums often
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Follow Up By: Gerhardp1 - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 20:11

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 20:11
Why are you asking this question - I answered it at the top of this thread you are posting in.

Here it is again

There are other wireless plans from Internet service providers, try http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/

and search for Wireless broadband.

Last time I looked, coverage was improving but costs were still higher than ADSL plus line rental, but portable when moving house, as long as the new place is in coverage.

The latest offering in the news today is naked ADSL, should be available Q1 next year. You get a line which has no phone number/dial tone but has ADSL signal. Should save a bit per month.
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Follow Up By: Pomgonewalkabout - Wednesday, Oct 17, 2007 at 07:11

Wednesday, Oct 17, 2007 at 07:11
I'm not
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Reply By: ExplorOz Team - Michelle - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 10:38

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 10:38
If you have broadband internet connection, all you need to do to get phone calls is a Skype account for VOIP - we are using this in our office, and like you our home line is hardly used so we are about to cancel our home line and only use the VOIP. We can still have a "home phone number" you simply have an assigned Skype-in number so you still give people your number as a 10 digit phone number (std codes + 8 digit number) and you can still receive calls using a normal phone handset if you wish, or pickup on your computer (using a headset seems to work best), or use a bluetooth earpiece/or headset. To make a call you need to use your computer and access the Skype console you'll get on your desktop but you can setup your PDA if you require more mobility with the handset for making a call just as easily. Skype is widespread so calls between Skype users are free, or the longdistance Skype STD rate is around .2 cents a minute. Seems to be the way to go. By the way, Skype is just one option for VOIP - its also available via iPrimus and various other broadband IPS. hope this helps.
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Follow Up By: Pomgonewalkabout - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 17:13

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 17:13
I was thinking of trying Skype my brother uses it in the UK

Here in the outback I am on a 1GB monthly plan for $49.95 a month I would like to know how soon that 1GB would be used up if I used Skype?

Is Skype data heavy?
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Reply By: Member - Glenn D (NSW) - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 14:51

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 14:51
Hows it going Al,

I think I read your post differently to others.

If you are in the right area you can get cable broadband wired to your house while not having a 'phone line'. I have a separate line for each of them .The guy that installed it said it runs Foxtel as well ,something I dont have.

Hope this helps.

Glenn.
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Follow Up By: Gerhardp1 - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 17:52

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 17:52
You have Telstra Cable.

Not available everywhere but not bad if you can get it.

Not as fast as Optus cable, but Optus can be very slow during peak use times, as bandwidth is shared.
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Follow Up By: Member - Glenn D (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 18, 2007 at 19:53

Thursday, Oct 18, 2007 at 19:53
Yeah I have definitley noticed my speed change , sometimes you think its going fast until you try to download something and the speed drops off .
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Reply By: tdv - Friday, Oct 19, 2007 at 09:03

Friday, Oct 19, 2007 at 09:03
Search Google about Naked DSL. Means no need to pay full phoneline rental. I think iinet and internode are about to offer this service for the exact reason you are asking about. Check the Whirlpool broadband forums

Cheers

tez
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