Will the wheels on the bus go round?

Submitted: Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 13:54
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Hi All,
Know this is a bit OT but has anyone had any experience with Toyota/Nissan busses (specifically 22seater 4 cyl diesel ) I am thinking of purchasing one, I want to know what there like on the hwys and going up hills, I have a feeling I know the answer

Thanks in advance
Rgds
Ian
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Reply By: Andrew from Vivid Adventures - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 14:04

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 14:04
I thought Coasters had 1HZ... which tells it's own story ;-)

The ones I have driven did anyways... they are easy to maintain, very reliable, and s l o w when loaded.
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Reply By: Steve from Top End Explorer Tours - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 14:05

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 14:05
A 21 seater coaster bus (Toyota) is a 6 cyl diesel 1hz, these have a large fuel pump and go quite well with 21 pax and a loaded camping trailer, I have driven these buses since the were made.

Cheers Steve.
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Reply By: Member - Noldi (WA) - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 14:27

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 14:27
Thanks guys I was actualy looking at a Nissan Civilian 3.3lt diesel, I guesed (incorrectly) that toyota would have a similar engine size. I can imagine it won't be a speed machine

Rgds
Ian
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Reply By: Rock Ape - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 16:05

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 16:05
Where I work we have used both the Nissan and toyota 21/23 seaters.

The Toyotas all did 500000k + with no trouble (only minor things) at all and seemed to have enough sting fuly loaded.

Tne Nissans are younger but to my knowledge have had no problems except wearing the outsides of the steer tyres and minor things. They also seem to have enough sting loaded.

Both are not racehorses but do the job well.

Have a good one
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Follow Up By: Member - Noldi (WA) - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 16:12

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 16:12
Thanks Rock do you recal if they were the 4 or 6 Cyl?
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Follow Up By: Rock Ape - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 16:16

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 16:16
Yep Toyota 6cyl manual and Nissan 4cyl auto
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Follow Up By: Member - Noldi (WA) - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 16:36

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 16:36
Thanks Rock I'm this close ][
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Follow Up By: Peter 2 - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 17:53

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 17:53
The current body shape Coasters originally came with a 1HZ 6 cylinder diesel as found in Landcruisers.
They have a 5 speed box and are much lower geared than a cruiser and rev very hard at any speed over 80kph on the highway, way too noisy for any long distance travel at speed.
The later ones come with 4.1 litre intercooled turbo diesel with a 6 speed box and go very well, so much so that some of the hire companies change clutches at around 30 k intervals as they eventually slip in the higher gears due to the high torque available.
I drive a 6 cyl 97 model around the city all day every day and it is beaut in traffic but a bear on the expressway or open road due to the noise because of high revs. The newer 4 cyl turbo ones are much better on the open road or expressway but I find they are a pain in traffic due to a much narrower power band and much less grunt off idle until the turbo spins up.
Very tough buses and just keep on going for very high miles.
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Follow Up By: Member - Noldi (WA) - Wednesday, Oct 17, 2007 at 00:14

Wednesday, Oct 17, 2007 at 00:14
Thanks for the info Pete, I think I may have to reconsider and go for a toyota
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Reply By: Dave B (NSW) - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 20:13

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 20:13
I think I would go for the Toyota because of the sheer popularity of them compared to the Nissan.
That means the parts availability would be far greater in most parts of Australia.
I would imagine the Nissan would be cheaper though.
Either one will slow down enough on a hill to give you time to do a geological survey.

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Follow Up By: Member - Noldi (WA) - Wednesday, Oct 17, 2007 at 00:11

Wednesday, Oct 17, 2007 at 00:11
Thanks Dave, good to get a posaive spin on it and its a very good point on spares that I had not considered

rgds
Ian
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Reply By: madfisher - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 22:06

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 22:06
Noldi we have a 21 seat Coaster at work and it flies. 6 speed manual 16 valve 4lt 4cylinder motor(not sure but boss said it is a 4lt). Biggest complaint is our customers are getting booked in it to often. In 5th it will do 100 with a 1000prm to spare and with a gear to go. Only ever had to go back to 4th once and that was the steep pinch up out of sofala.
The older coasters had the 1hz and a 5speed and were much slower. . The even older ones used a 3b motor which would be a complete slug
How old a bus are you looking at?. The one at work would be 2 yr old
Cheers Pete
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Follow Up By: Member - Noldi (WA) - Wednesday, Oct 17, 2007 at 00:07

Wednesday, Oct 17, 2007 at 00:07
Hi Pete thanks for the feedback,
unfortunatly due to available funds was looking at a Nissan 15 yrs old. I have come to the opinon that its not going to be a quick trip to anywhere, I'm just hoping to keep up with the trafic around town.

rgds

ian
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Reply By: Member - Peter H (WA) - Wednesday, Oct 17, 2007 at 01:07

Wednesday, Oct 17, 2007 at 01:07
Hi Ian

I have a 22 seat Toyota Coaster 87 model. I have converted it to a camper.
It has a 6cyl 2H motor. It is no speed demon however on a recent trip to Kalgoorlie from Bunbury I sat on 100kmh most of the way. It handled Greenmount ok. Bit slow but only once did I have to drop 3rd gear. Rest of the climb was in 4th or 5th.

Peter
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Follow Up By: Member - Noldi (WA) - Wednesday, Oct 17, 2007 at 14:17

Wednesday, Oct 17, 2007 at 14:17
Thanks Peter,
Good to hear, now you have the bus what are your thoughts on it, would a caravan been better for you? do you tow another vehicle?
I was talking to a guy that has just had gas injection installed says its made a big difference

Rgds
Ian
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Reply By: Member - Peter H (WA) - Thursday, Oct 18, 2007 at 02:03

Thursday, Oct 18, 2007 at 02:03
Hi ian

I find the bus great. I drive it around Bunbury just like a car. Obviously its bigger but it is very easy to drive.
I haven't considered a caravan. Some people like more room but we are quite happy with it. We don't tow anything. We have met some that tow a small car but we have decided that when we hit the road we will have our bicycles to get around on.
We have added solar so we dont have to stay in caravan parks,
As I said we find it great there is enough room as most of the time is spent outside anyway. Hope this helps

Regards
Peter
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Follow Up By: Member - Noldi (WA) - Thursday, Oct 18, 2007 at 09:48

Thursday, Oct 18, 2007 at 09:48
Sounds good Peter, not sure if were going to tow anything at this point, thought we would get on the road first (18 months time) if we find we need one then we'll sort it out.
In my current set up (4wd and Camper) I have an 80 ah lead acid battery which runs my fridge and a small Waeco battery pack for running lights around the camp. From this experience I was thinking of installing 2 80amp batteries in the bus (when I get it) do you think that will be sufficient?
I was also thinking of having a single 80W solar pannel (not sure if I should go with a roof mounted one or a fold away job). What are your thoughts?
As a backstop I have a cheap generator (never used) and a battery charger.
Also have you had any experience with LED strip lighting, supposed to be very good on power.

Rgds
Ian
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